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    Not a good night at the track. I just got some drag radials and moved up to a 100 shot. I did my burnout, staged, and launched. At 3400 rpms the NO kicked in and BOOM. I coasted a few hundered feet, car was dead. When I tried to re-start it, it turned over and would start but immediatly die. I was glad that the lower end seemed fine but was very worried about the intake manifold. I got a tow off the track and started checking.

    The MAF screen was toast. I mean litterally it was burnt to a crisp...what was left of it. The air filter was burned up on one side and the MAF was pretty messed up. However, everything else seemed in tack.

    I unpluged the MAF and loaded a Speed Density tune I have been working on (Speed Density is a tuning method that uses the MAP, Manifold Air Pressure, insteed of the MAF). The car started right up and I drove it home.

    Not a good night but not a bad night. At least I drove the car home.

    The problem must have been puddeling of fuel. I think the P&P job on the intake may have saved it because it has less restrictions so the explosion had an easy way out. No matter what, I was lucky.

    I am going to run in SD mode and finish the tuning. I am going to raise my lower limit on my window switch to 4000 rpms. That is the rpm that I drop to between shifts so I will only loose a little of spraying in 1st gear. Hopefully the higher rpms will prevent puddeling and prevent a repeat performance. I might start trying to set up a direct port injection, I guess that would be the safest. We will see.
    2001 Firebird 3.8L V6 M5,<br />It once had....<br />NX Nitrous Wet Kit, ZZP X-P Hot Cam, <br />3.42 LSD, Pacesetter Headers, <br />36# Injectors, HP Tuners<br />322 RWHP, 379 RWTQ<br />13.596 @ 102.56 w/100 shot

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    damnnnnnn..sorry to hear about that man..thats why if i ever go wet its gonna be direct port [img]smile.gif[/img]
    <b>12 SECOND DUAL STAGE DRY NITROUS POWERED 98 A4 V6 CAMARO<br /><a href=\"http://www.mysickcamaro.50megs.com\" target=\"_blank\">www.MySickCamaro.50megs.com</a><br />Best ET: 12.82@103<br />Best MPH: 104.7<br />Best 60\': 1.75 - Stock TC</b><br /> </font><blockquote><font size=\"1\" face=\"Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif\">quote:</font><hr /><font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif\">Originally posted by Shodown:<br /><strong>1DV6 runs 12\'s...enough said. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif\">

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    • #3
      It really sucked because it was the first time I got my wife to come to the track. I have been trying to get her to run her 2003 C5 Vette, she brought it but wouldn't run it. She is so worried she will break something. I do not think this helped. :(
      2001 Firebird 3.8L V6 M5,<br />It once had....<br />NX Nitrous Wet Kit, ZZP X-P Hot Cam, <br />3.42 LSD, Pacesetter Headers, <br />36# Injectors, HP Tuners<br />322 RWHP, 379 RWTQ<br />13.596 @ 102.56 w/100 shot

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      • #4
        i wouldnt think so hehe..just have her see you run it N/A [img]smile.gif[/img]
        <b>12 SECOND DUAL STAGE DRY NITROUS POWERED 98 A4 V6 CAMARO<br /><a href=\"http://www.mysickcamaro.50megs.com\" target=\"_blank\">www.MySickCamaro.50megs.com</a><br />Best ET: 12.82@103<br />Best MPH: 104.7<br />Best 60\': 1.75 - Stock TC</b><br /> </font><blockquote><font size=\"1\" face=\"Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif\">quote:</font><hr /><font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif\">Originally posted by Shodown:<br /><strong>1DV6 runs 12\'s...enough said. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif\">

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        • #5
          Too late now! lol
          2001 Firebird 3.8L V6 M5,<br />It once had....<br />NX Nitrous Wet Kit, ZZP X-P Hot Cam, <br />3.42 LSD, Pacesetter Headers, <br />36# Injectors, HP Tuners<br />322 RWHP, 379 RWTQ<br />13.596 @ 102.56 w/100 shot

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          • #6
            lol...true...before i blew it up i tried to get my gf to race my winter car at the track...a 96 chevy corsica lol ...i think i'll eventually get her to race her little saturn...then i bet she'll be hooked! haha...do you know everything that has been damaged yet?..i hope its not too extensive...keep us posted im curious [img]smile.gif[/img]
            <b>12 SECOND DUAL STAGE DRY NITROUS POWERED 98 A4 V6 CAMARO<br /><a href=\"http://www.mysickcamaro.50megs.com\" target=\"_blank\">www.MySickCamaro.50megs.com</a><br />Best ET: 12.82@103<br />Best MPH: 104.7<br />Best 60\': 1.75 - Stock TC</b><br /> </font><blockquote><font size=\"1\" face=\"Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif\">quote:</font><hr /><font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif\">Originally posted by Shodown:<br /><strong>1DV6 runs 12\'s...enough said. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif\">

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            • #7
              It seems like it is just the MAF, MAF screen, and air filter. With the MAF removed and running an SD tune, the car runs great. Like I said, very lucky.
              2001 Firebird 3.8L V6 M5,<br />It once had....<br />NX Nitrous Wet Kit, ZZP X-P Hot Cam, <br />3.42 LSD, Pacesetter Headers, <br />36# Injectors, HP Tuners<br />322 RWHP, 379 RWTQ<br />13.596 @ 102.56 w/100 shot

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              • #8
                cool [img]smile.gif[/img] ..do you plan on replacing the MAF or are you just gonna run in SD mode?
                <b>12 SECOND DUAL STAGE DRY NITROUS POWERED 98 A4 V6 CAMARO<br /><a href=\"http://www.mysickcamaro.50megs.com\" target=\"_blank\">www.MySickCamaro.50megs.com</a><br />Best ET: 12.82@103<br />Best MPH: 104.7<br />Best 60\': 1.75 - Stock TC</b><br /> </font><blockquote><font size=\"1\" face=\"Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif\">quote:</font><hr /><font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif\">Originally posted by Shodown:<br /><strong>1DV6 runs 12\'s...enough said. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif\">

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                • #9
                  I will replace the MAF eventually. But for now its SD time.
                  2001 Firebird 3.8L V6 M5,<br />It once had....<br />NX Nitrous Wet Kit, ZZP X-P Hot Cam, <br />3.42 LSD, Pacesetter Headers, <br />36# Injectors, HP Tuners<br />322 RWHP, 379 RWTQ<br />13.596 @ 102.56 w/100 shot

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                  • #10
                    I had the EXACT same thing happen to me. Low bottle pressure turned out to be the culprit.
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                    • #11
                      how does low bottle pressure affect that?
                      -Hawk<br /><br />===================================<br />Black 2001 Pontiac Firebird<br />Automatic Transmission Street Bird<br /><br /> <a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/550453\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/550453</a> <br /><br />\"Live like you were Dying\"

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                      • #12
                        Improper atomization of fuel from the nozzle can and will cause droplets.
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                        • #13
                          Brand new bottle at exactly 1050 psi. I have a pressure regulator that controls the heater. I have no idea why it happened.
                          2001 Firebird 3.8L V6 M5,<br />It once had....<br />NX Nitrous Wet Kit, ZZP X-P Hot Cam, <br />3.42 LSD, Pacesetter Headers, <br />36# Injectors, HP Tuners<br />322 RWHP, 379 RWTQ<br />13.596 @ 102.56 w/100 shot

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                          • #14
                            oh right, wet kit gotcha hahha
                            -Hawk<br /><br />===================================<br />Black 2001 Pontiac Firebird<br />Automatic Transmission Street Bird<br /><br /> <a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/550453\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/550453</a> <br /><br />\"Live like you were Dying\"

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