200 dry shot.

[1DangerousV6]

Originally posted by phoenix64:
I was thinking you could just spray the nitrous before the MAF, and scale the maf to add the fuel needed. Or set the TP enrichment to add a % of fuel at WOT.

you couldnt do it with the MAF..the signal the MAF creates on our cars maxes out at like 330 horsepower..i think you'd have to do it with tuning or something else..i used to spray a dry shot on top of boost..i was spraying an 85 shot with 4 - 6 psi..i wanted to do a 100 shot and 9 psi..but thats why i couldnt do it with a dry kit

[99v6cam]

Originally posted by 1DangerousV6:
the ONLY way i would run a shot that high is direct port..no other way..

The only SAFE way with forced induction is what I hope you mean. You can run a shot that high wet and have no problems unless you have forced induction. Sure a nitrous backfire would prolly make your intake (not the manifold since ours in metal) get blown off or perhaps blown to pieces but it wouldn't do much else. It'd be different if we had a plastic intake mani like mustang gt's and ls1's.

Not to jack the thread or anything but could anyone with a built motor fill me in on how much the parts were.

[phoenix64]

Originally posted by 1DangerousV6:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by phoenix64:
I was thinking you could just spray the nitrous before the MAF, and scale the maf to add the fuel needed. Or set the TP enrichment to add a % of fuel at WOT.

you couldnt do it with the MAF..the signal the MAF creates on our cars maxes out at like 330 horsepower..i think you'd have to do it with tuning or something else..i used to spray a dry shot on top of boost..i was spraying an 85 shot with 4 - 6 psi..i wanted to do a 100 shot and 9 psi..but thats why i couldnt do it with a dry kit </font>[/QUOTE]I don't think a 200 shot of nitrous would increase the MAF readings as much as 200hp worth of air. I could be wrong, but I think thats why people run lean on dry shots.

You don't need the MAF to read accuratly with nitrous, you would just need it to know the difference between air and nitrous.

[1DangerousV6]

Originally posted by 99v6cam:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 1DangerousV6:
the ONLY way i would run a shot that high is direct port..no other way..

The only SAFE way with forced induction is what I hope you mean. You can run a shot that high wet and have no problems unless you have forced induction. Sure a nitrous backfire would prolly make your intake (not the manifold since ours in metal) get blown off or perhaps blown to pieces but it wouldn't do much else. It'd be different if we had a plastic intake mani like mustang gt's and ls1's.

Not to jack the thread or anything but could anyone with a built motor fill me in on how much the parts were. </font>[/QUOTE]actually im talking about a wet shot in general..forced induction or not..the only way i would spray a 200 wet shot is direct port..otherwise you are just asking for a backfire..and the bigger the shot..the bigger the backfire..which works like any other explosion..the high pressure is going to want to escape any way possible..if it cant all go out the intake at once..say good bye to your internals..people here have before..but he's talking about a 200 dry shot through the intake anyway..which is very interesting..it can be done..i wouldnt do it myself..i would do it direct port..but..the risk of a backfire is much smaller with a dry shot..i think it'll just require a LOT of tuning and a LOT of figuring out the fuel system..if i were going to do this dry..i would set it up like the dry system i had..leave the MAF out of it with a shot this high..and let it just do what it was made to do..take care of the nitrous yourself..inject after the MAF..and tune for fuel delivery, timing retard, injector pulses, etc. yourself..thats what i would do..i dunno..it'd be pretty interesting [img]smile.gif[/img]

[malice10985]

Originally posted by 99v6cam:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 1DangerousV6:
the ONLY way i would run a shot that high is direct port..no other way..

The only SAFE way with forced induction is what I hope you mean. You can run a shot that high wet and have no problems unless you have forced induction. Sure a nitrous backfire would prolly make your intake (not the manifold since ours in metal) get blown off or perhaps blown to pieces but it wouldn't do much else. It'd be different if we had a plastic intake mani like mustang gt's and ls1's.

Not to jack the thread or anything but could anyone with a built motor fill me in on how much the parts were. </font>[/QUOTE]I am going to run a 100 wet shot on top of 10psi boost. If it blows up and kills me, than **** it. At least I can say I used two power adders. That will get me a good rep in Hell.

MY built motor was $2300 for everything, including beer, pizza, and band-aids.

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

my biult motor was about $5000..... ;)

[1DangerousV6]

mine was just over $4000 for the block and parts and everything

[malice10985]

I just had my block honed and hot tanked.

I did all the labor myself.

I had very minimal headwork done.

[12secondv6]

MOST engines...... can not handle a 200 dry shot.... due to difficulty tuning.

Contact any nitrous manufacturer, ask them.... they will confirm this.

They will suggest either wet or direct port.

[phoenix64]

I guess we'll start with a 50 shot and work our way up. Till it blows. Then LS1 swap time.

So no one knows of a stock motor that let go due to power alone?

[ March 05, 2005, 08:37 PM: Message edited by: phoenix64 ]

[12secondv6]

I went to a 120 dry shot.

For fuel:
stock fuel pump
stock injectors
kenne bell boost a pump 50%
supercips tuned computer

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

the only way i can see this working is to have a HP tune in just dump tons of fuel in the PE table since this only works at WOT........ like 3x the amount of fuel in the range your going to spray

[12secondv6]

But.... what would you do N/A then?

You would probably need 2 tunes.... and up/ download in via lap top for nitrous runs.

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

Originally posted by 12secondv6:
But.... what would you do N/A then?

You would probably need 2 tunes.... and up/ download in via lap top for nitrous runs.

it takes like 30seconds for me to right the tunes in there.. 28-40 depending on how much you changed...... have both tunes on you PC and up load the one you need only thing is you can't really do that on the street for a redlight race lol

[phoenix64]

You could use the MAF to dump fuel, thats my plan for my 50 dry shot. I use the PE mode at 30-40% throttle, so I'll have to use the MAF.

I might have to start a betting pool on this.....When will the S10 die, 50, 75, 100, 150, 200?