tested wet shot..running rich?

[1DangerousV6]

today i went to get some juice and it turned at that the guy's fill station was out..so he let me borrow a bottle he had filled there..but there was a pound or two missing he said..the highest i could get the bottle pressure was 800 psi..i was testing out a 100 shot..when i first injected it would hit really nicely..but then it seemed pretty slow the rest of the run..it was like that every time i tried..which was about 3 times..i then tried increasing the nitrous jet to compensate for the possible rich condition and it seemed to hit a little harder..but then i had nothing..purged..and fond out that i was out of juice completely..i didnt have hp tuners running..and am now out of juice so i cant do any logging..do these symptoms..along with the bottle psi..go along with running rich??..thanks!

[1998silverbird]

If you can only heat it up to 800 then the bottle was empty..

[Shirl]

What he said ^^ Plus, you should have purged to test the nitrous out. You can basically tell by the intensity/loudness of the purge if you have juice or if there is hardly anything left in the bottle. Did the car bog badly or stall when sprayed? If it did, you were either low or out of juice and fouled the plugs. They are probably black with soot... pull one and check it. That's the main way you will find out if it ran rich..

[1DangerousV6]

hmmm..i purged every time and there was plenty of juice..but if the bottle psi was only at 800 im thinking i was getting a LOT more fuel and not enough nitrous..the car didnt really bog or stall..it just seemed like after the initial injection something was kinda holding it back

[StudlyCamaro]

of course it would run rich with that low of a bottle pressure, think about it, the N2O jet was set for a 100 HP shot but was not spraying 100HP worth of N2O due to the low pressure, however the fuel system was operating at normal pressure and injected the ammount of fuel you would need for 100 HP, without the added O2 from the N2O you just had a lot of extra fuel

most likely after the first pass you fouled the plugs.. pull one and check it out

[1DangerousV6]

^cool..those were my thoughts..just wanted to see if everyone agrees..

[12secondv6]

Ok..... w/o an A/F monitor... you are assuming you were running rich?

If psi is low.... you can run rich
If bottle is not full... you can possibly run slightly rich
If not dyno tuned..... you could run rich.

Check plugs anyways....

Then... hit the dyno... NOT for #'s... but to finme tune A/F.

[1DangerousV6]

Originally posted by 12secondv6:

Then... hit the dyno... NOT for #'s... but to finme tune A/F.

thanks..that is DEFINITELY on the to do list

[12secondv6]

That is the only way.....

[Jerriko]

Originally posted by 12secondv6:
Ok..... w/o an A/F monitor... you are assuming you were running rich?

How do you know you were running rich? Besides guessing, I mean.

[1DangerousV6]

i dont..just considering the bottle pressure thats my best guess..unfortunately i wasnt doing any logging..but i will soon

[Pewter2K1]

I know rich.. if it hits, then stumbles, or feels like the car is fluctuating the power..

I ran the car rich as crap, I had no tuning, and it at the dyno it never got above 10.0 A/F. I just backed off on the fuel pill a bit to compensate, but still i knew i was shorting myself out. I changed plugs every other weekend, they never fouled out, but i just had an extra set to change out. I know there was room for more time. but at least you werent lean!

[Jerriko]

My whole point is that he wants us to guess off of a guess. Sure, you could assume that he was running rich since his bottle wasn't up to pressure. But what if something else is wrong that was making him run lean. He's implying that the only thing wrong with the car was the bottle pressure (and I try not to assume anything). And since it isn't logged, we have no idea what is going on with that thing. No offense meant, but I wouldn't let 1dv6 put air into my tires.

[1DangerousV6]

i was simply providing symptoms..and saying that MY guess was that i was running rich..as you can see by the title of this thread..anyone could have said "no..with those symptoms i would say you were running lean"..or as you are saying.."there are no logs..there is no way to tell WHAT was wrong"..thats a totally valid opinion too and something to take into consideration..i was simply just asking for opinions based on the symptoms given..your shots at me mean nothing to me..im not out to prove anything..set any records..or run faster than anyone..i do what i do because i love it and its fun..as long as it stays fun..thats all that matters to me..there is no need to put anyone down in this section for asking a question..if that is the way you feel then you should leave this section..it is one of the best on the board because people do not do that here..

[Jerriko]

Call it what you will. I am simply saying that if you want accurate suggestions/opinions, you should have some sort of accurate info, not opinions. I guess I am getting tried of your seemingly pointless posts. Actually, let me rephrase that. You seem to talk just to talk regardless if its anything beneficial or not.