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    well there is nothing else that i can do to my car so i have decided to build up my engine. i already have port and polished heads and a gt1 cam 26 lb fuel injectors and a 3 angle vavle job.
    i wanted to build up the engine to be able to take a LARGE nitrous hit. for those of you who don't know. i'm running a n/x 100 wet shot. maybe one day i will add a supercharger on top of it.

    what do i need to get?
    WAWA-A-HOLIC


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    Re: building my engine

    Originally posted by kristen
    well there is nothing else that i can do to my car so i have decided to build up my engine. i already have port and polished heads and a gt1 cam 26 lb fuel injectors and a 3 angle vavle job.
    i wanted to build up the engine to be able to take a LARGE nitrous hit. for those of you who don't know. i'm running a n/x 100 wet shot. maybe one day i will add a supercharger on top of it.

    what do i need to get?
    furtherported heads w/ 5 angle VJ
    ported intakes
    whats your valve train setup? (ie valve spring #, valves, retainers, etc)
    Larger Cam
    Maybe some roller rockers
    forged pistons
    total seal piston rings
    L32 Connecting rods

    thats a nice healthy list i think

    o and then transmission......a4 or m5?

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    • #3
      Re: building my engine

      Originally posted by UDLOSE98
      furtherported heads w/ 5 angle VJ
      ported intakes
      whats your valve train setup? (ie valve spring #, valves, retainers, etc)
      Larger Cam
      Maybe some roller rockers
      forged pistons
      total seal piston rings
      L32 Connecting rods

      thats a nice healthy list i think

      o and then transmission......a4 or m5?
      i wanted to keep my stock heads,
      valve springs etc are all stock
      i was thinking of going to a larger cam and selling the gt1
      rollar rockers i was thinking of 1.9
      i'm a m5
      WAWA-A-HOLIC

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      • #4
        Re: building my engine

        if you have a cam...esp larger than the gt1, you will not want to go over 1.7's...if you go too high, you will cause too much lift and BOOM, most i have ever seen was a mild-large cam with 1.8's and even there you are flirting with disaster, but that was on abbott stage 3 heads.

        I would suggest new valve springs, guides, retainers, seals...etc

        then def. some upgrades to the tranmission.

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        • #5
          Re: building my engine

          It feels kinda weird giving advice to you Kristen, you usually answer OUR questions! lol j/k. :)

          Tranny:
          G-Force built T-5

          For your motor build:
          Forged rods
          Diamond forged Pistons
          Comp 1.7 ratio Pro Magnum roller rockers
          130# Springs
          Titanium retainers
          Hardened pushrods
          Comp XP Hot cam (or Abbott's N/A cam, responds VERY well to nitrous)
          Comp hydrolic roller lifters
          New valve locks
          Double roller timing set
          New timing chain dampner
          P&P uppper and lower intakes
          36lb injectors

          Now, for your nitrous set up: (dual stage)
          Secondary window switch set at 4000-6000 RPM (100 shot)
          Secondary solenoids hooked up to the secondary window switch
          Piggy back secondary window switch to original WOT switch
          Set your original window switch at 3000-6000 RPM (100 shot)
          "Y" fitting coming off of you fuel rail
          "Y" fitting coming off of your nitrous bottle (or get a second bottle)

          You'll basically have 2 nitrous systems, one hits at 3000-6000 rpm (stage one) and one hits at 4000-6000 rpm (stage 2)

          With all that, you should be set for a 200+ shot :rock: :drool:
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          1997 Camaro RS A4
          2006 Chevy Colorado
          2003 Kawasaki Ninja ZX6-R

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          • #6
            Re: building my engine

            not ready for the second nitrous set up yet. i will play it by year. i will up it to 150, and go from there.

            shodown. the list of stuff that you named off. what will all of that cost. jw. i can't wait to get into this! but it won't be going down for a while. since we are going to build my husbands old motor first. and then do the camaros
            Last edited by kristen; 01-03-2007, 01:03 PM.
            WAWA-A-HOLIC

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            • #7
              Re: building my engine

              For your motor build:
              Forged rods - $200 +
              Diamond forged Pistons - $650.00
              Comp 1.7 ratio Pro Magnum roller rockers $300
              130# Springs $150
              Titanium retainers $?
              Hardened pushrods $ 100
              Comp XP Hot cam (or Abbott's N/A cam, responds VERY well to nitrous) $300
              Comp hydrolic roller lifters $120
              New valve locks $cheap
              Double roller timing set $170
              New timing chain dampner (not needed with adouble roller set up)
              P&P uppper and lower intakes $390
              36lb injectors $150 or less used from clubgp.com

              and then there are misc costs for an engine build...wrist pins, bearings, possible machine work.
              Last edited by UDLOSE98; 01-03-2007, 01:24 PM.

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              • #8
                Re: building my engine

                The motor build will cost ~$2600 (high estimate) for all brand new parts. I think those built T-5's are around $1500.

                Thats a good idea about the nitrous though. Start at 150 and work your way up. I dont know about your kit, but you may need bigger 'noids for anything more than 150.
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                1997 Camaro RS A4
                2006 Chevy Colorado
                2003 Kawasaki Ninja ZX6-R

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                • #9
                  Re: building my engine

                  If you're worried about spraying a single nozzle 150 shot on the stock motor I would just get a second kit and spray a 50 shot in 3rd gear and up ontop of your current 100 shot.

                  Your motor doesnt need to be built yet...the 50 shot will give you the extra umph you need to get your 12s and will be shot high enough to not cause any problems for the motor.

                  That's what I would do.

                  And that could be done for less than 500 dollars (including a second window switch or time-delay)
                  Last edited by FloydSummerOf68; 01-03-2007, 01:37 PM.
                  Shawn<br />2002 Silver W68 Firebird

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                  • #10
                    Re: building my engine

                    Or put a 150 shot on the single nozzle and use a proggressive controller to control the ramp-up time of the nitrous so that you wont break your 5-speed on the initial hit of it or your rearend on the launch.

                    And that would only run you about 175 for a digital controller.
                    Shawn<br />2002 Silver W68 Firebird

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                    • #11
                      Re: building my engine

                      Originally posted by Shodown

                      You'll basically have 2 nitrous systems, one hits at 3000-6000 rpm (stage one) and one hits at 4000-6000 rpm (stage 2)

                      With all that, you should be set for a 200+ shot :rock: :drool:
                      If you did build your engine, is there any reason why you couldnt run a 200+ shot? Unless i am missing something, i would love to do this!
                      2000 Firebird A4

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                      • #12
                        Re: building my engine

                        I know someone who has a fully built motor and is currently running a dual stage 200 shot.

                        To answer your question, HELL YES, if I had a fully built motor I would be spraying 200+ shot. :rock: :drool:
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                        1997 Camaro RS A4
                        2006 Chevy Colorado
                        2003 Kawasaki Ninja ZX6-R

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                        • #13
                          Re: building my engine

                          on our v6s??? HOLY CRAP! that would be intense!
                          2000 Firebird A4

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                          • #14
                            Re: building my engine

                            yea a 200 shot should be done in stages though and not all at once. But a built motor made for nitrous can definitely take a 200 shot
                            http://www.bowtiev6.com/

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                            • #15
                              Re: building my engine

                              Originally posted by JKlug23
                              on our v6s??? HOLY CRAP! that would be intense!
                              sure think of it in terms of a turbo....the block itself can hadle huge amounts of horsepower in steps
                              at low rpms boost is equally low....the more you get on the gas the more it builds up till WOT when it is at its predesignated max.

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