firing order

[Chueybaca]

Ok guys I just finished putting back together my 2000 3.8 camaro after doing a head gasket job and when I tried to start the car it would crank but not turn over. I notice on the ignition coils they had 2 of the same numbers on 2 of them. For instance 1 coil was labeled 2 and 5 and the other two were labeled 1 and 4. The car ran fine before I did the job and now I do not know the correct firing order for the spark plugs. Also when I try to start it a security light comes on in the instrument gauge, or where the speedometer is when u turn it on lol. Do I get a OBD scanner and see if I missed any plugs or what do I do?

[flamingchicken]

Re: firing order

go to a local parts store, and just look in the haynes manual. you dont even have to buy it. it should have the fireing order listed.

Is it back fireing through the intake/exhaust?

[Chueybaca]

Re: firing order

Well apparently after searching online the VATS system seems to be kicking in since the security light keeps flashing. I do want to make sure on the firing order though since I know that will cause problems.

[flamingchicken]

Re: firing order

is it fireing?

[Bandit127]

Re: firing order

Are you getting fuel? Are you getting any hint of spark? Turning over and cranking are the same thing. Stuff like firing order is rediculously simple compared to a head job, how did you do the heads without a manual for specs?

[ssms5411]

Re: firing order

Well apparently after searching online the VATS system seems to be kicking in since the security light keeps flashing. I do want to make sure on the firing order though since I know that will cause problems.

First buy a Haynes manual, then setup your coils and splug wires right, your BCM controls Vats and if your car starts and runs then Vats is good becuase then engine won't run if Vats isn't working( thats the reason we have the chip on our key) Are you sure its the security light flashing when started ? If not started and trying to start the security light flashes along with air bag and a few others upon start up. So the first step is to get them in the correct order.

[Chueybaca]

Re: firing order

Well the thing is I had the haynes manual but I lost it when I was doing the torque specs for the lower and upper intake manifolds. I got the repair manuals for those from autozone repair guides online. When I try to start the car it just cranks but doesn't turn on. The security light keeps flashing so I don't know whats going on. I will try to make sure the firing order is right first.

[Bonemaro]

Re: firing order

[cam98aro]

Re: firing order

Well the thing is I had the haynes manual but I lost it when I was doing the torque specs for the lower and upper intake manifolds. I got the repair manuals for those from autozone repair guides online. When I try to start the car it just cranks but doesn't turn on. The security light keeps flashing so I don't know whats going on. I will try to make sure the firing order is right first.

thats odd. the security light flashes when there is a problem with the VATS, like previously mentioned, but it should also kill the starter, the engine should not spin, you just turn the key and nothing will happen like there is no battery

when i start my car the security light is always on solid, then goes out a few seconds after starting

[Chueybaca]

Re: firing order

Yeah I know that is pretty weird. Well after researching this problem online I found that you can leave the key to the on position for about ten minutes and it should go away. I did that and it did go away. Tried starting the car and it did but it started bucking so I shut it off. Going to go and make sure the firing order is ok. Thanks for the replies :)

[Chueybaca]

Re: firing order

Well I guess I fried something and I am really sad. I left the OBD diagnostic tool in the car and when I turned it on I smelled something burning and the diagnostic tool got fried. I borrowed it from autozone. 160 down the drain. I ran the hot wire coming from the positive terminal on the battery to the back of the alternator( don't know if it belongs there) but im guessing it fried it. There is also a sensor on that same wire, well two sensors one for the back of the alternator and another two prong one that I don't know where it goes??? Also I forgot to connect the ground wire that's on back of the engine by the firewall I don't know if you have to. The gauges on my speedometer are flipping out with the key off and now doing the little ten minute trick still did not start the car. I am really depressed and feel I have shorted the cars computer. My dad checked and said there was no spark. Sigh I am really close to junking the car after I spent 500 bucks fixing the heads and gaskets and a lot of man hours(almost 3 months because of work and school) and I think im just going to sell it to a guy at work who wants it for 500. This car has done too much to me, or I am just that stupid. Sigh

[flamingchicken]

Re: firing order

the gauges flipping out sounds like a bad body to engine ground...check into that. just run a wire from somewhere ont he body to somewhere on the engine and see, shouldnt take but five minutes to test that theory.

[Chueybaca]

Re: firing order

Ok thanks I will look into that tomorrow. I hope the car will fire up :/