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    I'm at 225-hp SAE-corrected at the wheels or about 275 SAE, at the flywheel.

    I see 100% duty cycle at WOT high rpm. Not good.

    What's the opinion on alternative injectors for that power level? Also, has anyone simply swapped in injectors from a supercharged 3800? Lastly, what do the folks think of RC Engineering injectors?

  • #2
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    You'll need HPtuners to tune bigger injectors. I have ran GTP 36lb injectors before which is 33lb on our fuel system. I'm running 65lb(60lb) injectors right now.
    08' L76 6.0L 4X4 Chevy EXT.Cab LTZ Vortec MAX with Snug top cover, Dynomax exhaust,Hptuners& K&N intake
    96' Camaro M5 to A4 conversion, alot of mods . GT35R Turbo full suspension. Built engine

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    • #3
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      36ers would help, but they wouldnt leave you any room to grow more.

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      • #4
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        Originally posted by ssms5411 View Post
        You'll need HPtuners to tune bigger injectors.
        I have it.

        [quote] I have ran GTP 36lb injectors before which is 33lb on our fuel system.

        Are "GTP 36lb injectors" GM PN 245082? Also, at what pressure are they 36lbs/hr?

        I'm running 65lb(60lb) injectors right now.
        At what horsepower level is your engine?
        Last edited by Hib Halverson; 08-05-2011, 11:45 AM. Reason: spelling

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        • #5
          Re: Injectors??

          [QUOTE=Hib Halverson;1012810]I have it.

          I have ran GTP 36lb injectors before which is 33lb on our fuel system.

          Are "GTP 36lb injectors" GM PN 245082? Also, at what pressure are they 36lbs/hr?



          At what horsepower level is your engine?
          Don't know for sure, still waiting to do my front cover and I need to put some new headers on , I grinded too much on the flange, so its leaking. I'm going to go with some Pacesetters. GTP injectors are going to be 33lbs on our fuel system.
          08' L76 6.0L 4X4 Chevy EXT.Cab LTZ Vortec MAX with Snug top cover, Dynomax exhaust,Hptuners& K&N intake
          96' Camaro M5 to A4 conversion, alot of mods . GT35R Turbo full suspension. Built engine

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          • #6
            Re: Injectors??

            A lot of LS1 guys who are 350-450 whp run the Ford SVO 42#'s. Although, I saw on some site that the 60# injectors were cheaper than the 42# injectors...

            And after I posted this, I realized that they're probably different. Anyway my point was that 42# would probably be fine.

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            • #7
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              I've been emailing with John Park at RC Engineering and he's saying at my power level 25 lb/hr injector is what I need. If I go with nitrous oxide, he suggests a 30.

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              • #8
                Re: Injectors??

                You might as well get the GTP injectors at 33lbs, plus there like $60 used.
                08' L76 6.0L 4X4 Chevy EXT.Cab LTZ Vortec MAX with Snug top cover, Dynomax exhaust,Hptuners& K&N intake
                96' Camaro M5 to A4 conversion, alot of mods . GT35R Turbo full suspension. Built engine

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                • #9
                  Re: Injectors??

                  What about 26lb LT1 injectors?
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                  • #10
                    Re: Injectors??

                    Originally posted by FirebirdGT View Post
                    What about 26lb LT1 injectors?
                    .
                    Fuel pressure is different be like runnig 24 or even 22LB injectors. At least with the GTP 36lb injectors we know their 33lb on our fuel system.
                    08' L76 6.0L 4X4 Chevy EXT.Cab LTZ Vortec MAX with Snug top cover, Dynomax exhaust,Hptuners& K&N intake
                    96' Camaro M5 to A4 conversion, alot of mods . GT35R Turbo full suspension. Built engine

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                    • #11
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                      I've had real good luck with these so far. When i had my car retuned with them we had all sorts of room to grow.

                      http://www.zzperformance.com/grand_p...1178&catid=113
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                      • #12
                        Re: Injectors??

                        Originally posted by ssms5411 View Post
                        You might as well get the GTP injectors at 33lbs, plus there like $60 used.
                        I have too much money in this project at this point to trust used injectors.

                        Originally posted by FirebirdGT View Post
                        What about 26lb LT1 injectors?
                        .
                        I've used RC Engineering injectors on other projects and I like them because the flow spread is typically 1 to 1.5%. In my experience OE injectors can't match that. Admittedly, from a flow perspective, the LT1 units would do the job as would the injectors used on the supercharged 3800s.

                        I'm going to pull out the stockers, which I'm told by RC are 21.5 lbs/hr and take them down to RC and have them flow both sets. Still haven't decided between the 25s or the 30s.

                        I want to keep the injector sizing reasonable for the engine as my feeling is the bigger the injector is for the engine's fuel needs, the harder it is to control the injector at low load.
                        Last edited by Hib Halverson; 08-09-2011, 10:23 PM. Reason: added content

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                        • #13
                          Re: Injectors??

                          Originally posted by Hib Halverson View Post
                          I'm going to pull out the stockers, which I'm told by RC are 21.5 lbs/hr and take them down to RC and have them flow both sets. Still haven't decided between the 25s or the 30s.

                          I want to keep the injector sizing reasonable for the engine as my feeling is the bigger the injector is for the engine's fuel needs, the harder it is to control the injector at low load.
                          Factory value is 22lbs for stock injectors.

                          I agree - bigger is not always better. The system needs to optimized for the "normal" operating condition (racing or DD) determined by the user.
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                          Robert - owner www.FirebirdV6.com/CamaroV6.com

                          "Mid-life crisis? I'm way beyond that!"

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                          • #14
                            Re: Injectors??

                            I have my 65lb injectors tuned pretty well.
                            i go by pulse width which is around 2.2-2.0. Runs like stock. Its all in the tunning.
                            08' L76 6.0L 4X4 Chevy EXT.Cab LTZ Vortec MAX with Snug top cover, Dynomax exhaust,Hptuners& K&N intake
                            96' Camaro M5 to A4 conversion, alot of mods . GT35R Turbo full suspension. Built engine

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                            • #15
                              Re: Injectors??

                              It's been a while since I've been back here because there was a long delay before I actually got the 30-lb units in the engine.

                              What have you guys had to do calibration-wise to get an engine which ran ok at less than 80% TPS on 22-lb injectors to do the same on 30-lb injectors?

                              Also, anyone know of an adapter harness that will let me run injectors with the older Bosch-type connector with the 3800 injector plugs?

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