EGR delete

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

Originally posted by 97rs4life:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 98Camaro3.8:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 97rs4life:
If you took the whole thing out, where did you mount the oil dipstick tube, cuz that is attached to the assembly.

I made a bracket to mount my dipstick. Much cleaner engine bay with the EGR gone, and now there's still a bracket for the dipstick. Looks great. </font>[/QUOTE]Got a pic of the bracket? </font>[/QUOTE]x2

[slow6]

i want to remove my EGR just for a cleaner intake and lower intake temps

[98Camaro3.8]

You can kind of see it here:
http://www.leadingedgesim.com/mkapro...RemovedEGR.JPG
I'll get a better picture of it in the next few days.

Originally posted by slow6:
i want to remove my EGR just for a cleaner intake and lower intake temps

May be lower intake temps, but you're gonna have higher combustion chamber temps. That means a higher chance of detontation.

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

Originally posted by 98Camaro3.8:
You can kind of see it here:
http://www.leadingedgesim.com/mkapro...RemovedEGR.JPG
I'll get a better picture of it in the next few days.

</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by slow6:
i want to remove my EGR just for a cleaner intake and lower intake temps

May be lower intake temps, but you're gonna have higher combustion chamber temps. That means a higher chance of detontation. </font>[/QUOTE]how does the work ???

[98Camaro3.8]

Originally posted by viper04af:
how does the work ???

What? You mean the bracket or the temperature thing?


Edit: Here's another picture of that bracket:
http://home.cfl.rr.com/mkaprocki/Camaro/EGR.jpg

[ March 19, 2006, 12:57 PM: Message edited by: 98Camaro3.8 ]

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

Originally posted by 98Camaro3.8:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by viper04af:
how does the work ???

What? You mean the bracket or the temperature thing?


Edit: Here's another picture of that bracket:
http://home.cfl.rr.com/mkaprocki/Camaro/EGR.jpg </font>[/QUOTE]how do you get high com temps ?

sorry about the spelling I hig on gas from changing out the injectors lol

[97rs4life]

WOT you won't notice any difference in temps cuz your EGR is closed at WOT. Part throttle cruising when the EGR is open is when it keeps it a little cooler because it introduces NOX (particles of nitrogen) from the exhaust which doesn't combust and therefore takes up space and doesn't create heat. Without the EGR more air goes in instead of the NOX into the combustion chamber and therefore raises temps and chance of detonation.

Correct me if I am wrong someone, that is how I understand it after researching it

[98Camaro3.8]

That's pretty close.

EGR actually reduces the creation of Oxides of Nitrogen (NOx) by lowering combustion chamber temps. Higher temps create more NOx, so the goal is to decrease the temps. Exhaust gasses are mostly inert, so all it does is take up space in the charge going to the cylinder. In addition to reducing NOx, lower combustion chamber temps also allow for more timing advance, less chance of detontation, and increased gas mileage. All of which are lost if you remove the EGR.

IMO, I'd advise against removing EGR for no reason. "Cleaner intake and lower intake temps" are not good reasons for removing it.

[slow6]

Originally posted by slow6:
[QB]

how do you get high com temps ?

sorry about the spelling I hig on gas from changing out the injectors lol

lol in that case, then youre always high ;) (I'm trying to make fun of your spelling)

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

Originally posted by 98Camaro3.8:
IMO, I'd advise against removing EGR for no reason. "Cleaner intake and lower intake temps" are not good reasons for removing it.

taking it off cuase the focker won't stop leaking is [img]graemlins/twak.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/twak.gif[/img] :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[98Camaro3.8]

Originally posted by viper04af:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 98Camaro3.8:
IMO, I'd advise against removing EGR for no reason. "Cleaner intake and lower intake temps" are not good reasons for removing it.

taking it off cuase the focker won't stop leaking is [img]graemlins/twak.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/twak.gif[/img] :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: </font>[/QUOTE]Sure, that's the same reason I got rid of mine. Just saying that trying to lower the intake temp isn't a good reason to take it off. ;)

[BobbyZ72]

if the egr is only used to lower combustion chamber temps, then why is it required to pass state inspection. I find it hard to beleve that the egr is only for reducing combustion chamber temps, because then it seems it would be wide open during wot trying to keep everything cool. In my opioin, the egr is there to reduce emissions. I dont think it does, but thats why its there. Again, this is all my 2 cents, i think the egr valve is the dumbest thing ive ever heard of. Again, this is just all my 2 cents.

[98Camaro3.8]

Originally posted by BobbyZ72:
I find it hard to beleve that the egr is only for reducing combustion chamber temps, because then it seems it would be wide open during wot trying to keep everything cool. In my opioin, the egr is there to reduce emissions.

Did you read my post? Decreasing the temperature does reduce emissions. ;)

http://www.asashop.org/autoinc/nov97/gas.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exhaust_gas_recirculation

[shenanigans]

did you guys use gaskets on th block off plates or no?

I ws thinking of making some and doing mine sinece my still leaks...

[slow6]

how about....
I dont want the EGR to warp the plastic intake gaskets? Is That good enough excuse to !EGR?