Chips VS Programmers

[wademus101]

Ive got a 2001 Firebird 3.8 with The Austin SSRA kit, whisper lid (and kn filter), and American Thunder Flowmaster exhaust.

my next upgrade is definitely some tuning but im kinda dull in this area. If anyone knows Id like to know if youd invest in a programmer or if the Jet Stage 1 or 2 chips are worthwhile.



http://www.slponline.com/view_product.asp?P=63012
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And does anyone know if these do anything?


THANX

[97rs4life]

Re: Chips VS Programmers

stay away from jet chips, get the hptuners or dhp program

[vanbibber]

Re: Chips VS Programmers

tune > anything.

chips are crap for the most part and programmers are a overpriced considering they dont do much.

get a mail order tune or find someone with hp tuners.

[Blip55]

Re: Chips VS Programmers

chips are bs.. power programmers is like the worst **** god himself created.. i think it was made to make firebirds slower.. in all seriousness... they are a bunch of ****.. especially if you have a manual..


and hptuners is the **** =D

[wademus101]

Re: Chips VS Programmers

Well hptuners seems a bit much. whats the verdict on sending in the ecu to hptuners? also i hv seen that slp can do the same. whats the turnaround time? and does it help that much to justify the cost?

[rt1]

Re: Chips VS Programmers

Jet Stage 1 or 2 chips are worthwhile.

Not with a 3.8... Tune it.

http://www.slponline.com/view_product.asp?P=63012
^^^^^
And does anyone know if these do anything?

Those just cheat the computer into thinking you have colder air. You could do the same thing, with greater efficiency with a tune.

Rob

[97rs4life]

Re: Chips VS Programmers

mail order tunes can be done through texas-speed.com or pcmforless.com, if you just have basic bolt ons a mail order is fine, but if you are heavily modded then you need your own hptuners or dhp

[Blip55]

Re: Chips VS Programmers

Well hptuners seems a bit much. whats the verdict on sending in the ecu to hptuners? also i hv seen that slp can do the same. whats the turnaround time? and does it help that much to justify the cost?

I dont think you can send your ECU to hptuners? can you??


(either way, buying program is the best thing you can do.. think of it as a one time payment :D)

[FloydSummerOf68]

Re: Chips VS Programmers

chips are bs.. power programmers is like the worst **** god himself created.. i think it was made to make firebirds slower.. in all seriousness... they are a bunch of ****.. especially if you have a manual..

:rolls eyes:

On a mostly stock car like he has the hypertechs actually do pretty well and will easily pick up .3 in the 1/4.

However, the cost is not worth it...go with a mail-order tune from texas speed or PCMforless if you dont want to spend the ~600 dollars to get yourself into HPtuners and learn the process.

Hypertech actually has some new module out that looks pretty cool, but I havent heard of anyone trying it yet. It's basically like a g-tech pro and hpp3 put into one.

[wademus101]

Re: Chips VS Programmers

so do i go with texas speed or pcmforless?????????????? Or do i go to a dyno shop, and if so how much have you guys paid for dyno tuning?

[xmetallicaxguitaristx]

Re: Chips VS Programmers

Is there maybe a way to get a OBDII-->USB cable, and then use some free or "obtainable" software to tune your car?

[97rs4life]

Re: Chips VS Programmers

Is there maybe a way to get a OBDII-->USB cable, and then use some free or "obtainable" software to tune your car?

no, only two tuners available for our cars and they need to be purchased and a special cable used