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    Here's a great article on "how to charge your capacitor".

    Usually capacitors should come with a charging card, and instructions for charging the it. The card is attached to the posts on top of the capacitor, and the two leads that come off of the card are attached to power and ground. When first connected, the green LED on the card should light up. When the green light goes out, the capacitor is charged. My capacitor didn't came with anything since I bought it used from ebay 2 years ago. I should also mention that it's been sitting in the attic 1.5 years that's why I strictly followed the instructions.

    Capacitors that are not equipped with a charging card usually come packaged with a charging resistor. We recommend a 30 Ohm resistor(I used 47 ohm and it worked perfectly). You will need that resistor and a voltmeter(I didn't need it since my cap is digital) to charge the cap. I think you can get away with not buying a voltmeter (even though it's a great tool to have). Just make sure you spend at least 3-5 minutes so that you're risk free.

    1. First, you will want to remove the main fuse for your auto sound system (usually mounted as close to the car's battery as possible).

    2. With all power removed from the main power line, go ahead and connect your power and ground cables to the capacitor. After you have connected the power cable and ground cable (and remote lead where applicable) to the capacitor you are ready to charge it.

    3. To charge the capacitor, put the leads of the resistor in place of where the main fuse was in the fuse holder. You should hold the body of the resistor with a pair of pliers since it can get extremely hot( very true statement)

    4. After waiting a few minutes with the resistor in place, measure the voltage at the capacitor. Once the voltage at the capacitor gets to eleven volts, it's safe to remove the resistor and put the fuse back into it's place in the fuse holder.

    If you see a little bit of a spark at the fuse when it is reconnected, that is normal. That's just the capacitor making up the difference in voltage that it needs, and should just take place quickly and then stop.



    If you do not have a resistor to use with your capacitor, then a test light can serve the same purpose. You would just follow the above instructions for installation while using a resistor, only instead you would put the clip of the test light on one side of the fuse holder, then put the probe of the test light to the opposite side of the fuse holder. The light should light up at this point, and you will know that your capacitor is fully charged when the light on the test light goes out.



    I found that article very useful when I charged my capacitor today in the morning. Radio shack sells the resistor for a pack of 6 for $.99. My cap charged fine and working perfectly. I have a digital voltmeter on my amp so I can actually tell you the difference. BEFORE the cap, I was constantly getting 11v-12.5v to my amplifier. AFTER the cap install, my digital cap is reading 14.6v (<-- this is what cap is getting from the battery) and my amp is reading 13.5v to 14.0v constant. So, it's about 1.5v to 2.0v increase which is quite impressive. If Matt wants to sticky this, it's up to him. I am just passing along good information that might help someone decide on buying or charging a Capacitor ;). Again, folks, DO NOT buy a capacitor if you have serious audio equipment (i.e. big amps). You need to buy "High Output" alternator. Capacitors are used to provide uniform voltage to your amp, not for making up the lack of power that your alternator can't produce.



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    Re: How to charge your audio capacitor

    my cap did not have to be charged, i just hooked it straight up and it worked.

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    • #3
      Re: How to charge your audio capacitor

      It is risky doing that for something that offers no help for a car audio system.
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      • #4
        Re: How to charge your audio capacitor

        Originally posted by 95Batmobile
        It is risky doing that for something that offers no help for a car audio system.

        are u kidding?

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        • #5
          Re: How to charge your audio capacitor

          About which part? The risky part or the not helping part? Eh, not kidding about either of them so I guess it doesn't matter.
          <b><a href=\"http://members.cox.net/95batmobile/d86f.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">Sinister Six©</b></a><br /><a href=\"http://www.sounddomain.com/id/95batmobile\" target=\"_blank\">My \'95 Bird</a><br />I am not afraid of storms, for I am learning how to sail my ship.

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          • #6
            Re: How to charge your audio capacitor

            how does a cap not help an audio system? i would really love to hear you disprove any kind of positive benefit from getting extra voltage......

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            • #7
              Re: How to charge your audio capacitor

              Sigh... ok I'll make this short. There are pages and pages of proof against caps, butt I'll just give you the most useful stuff. None of this is my intellectual property, it was all done and tested by people way smarter than I am.

              First - caps are not batteries. Caps store electrical energy, batteries have chemicals inside that can create as well as store.

              Second - we measure energy stored with joules. A joule is a watt second. This means that one joule can provide one watt for one second. 100 joules can provide 100 watts for one second, or one watt for 100 seconds, etc.
              The formula for finding the amount of joules stored in a cap is pretty easy. You take one half the farad number and multiply it by the squared voltage. For example, a one farad cap at 14 volts would be (1/2)x(14x14) = 98 joules. A 20 farad cap charged at 14 volts would be (20/2)x(14x14) = 1960 joules.

              Third - of the one farad caps total power at 14 volts, 98 joules, only about half is usable in car audio since amps do not operates below 11 volts. Just to be safe, we'll say 10 volts. So of the 98 joules, only about 49 joules can be used by the amp.

              Fourth, an Optima Yellow Top battery is rated at 65 amp hours. This means it can provide 65 amps for one hour. A yellow top's actual voltage at 65 amps is 12.2 volts, at the end of the hour it is at about 10 volts. Using an 11 volt average, an optima yellow top stores 2,574,000 usable joules.

              So, what have we learned? When the primary power source (the alternator) cannot keep up with the demands of your audio system, the cap is supposed to make up for the lost power. However, with a 1 farad cap, it can only provide 49 watts for 1 second before its energy is completely drained and becomes a load on the alternator. Most people have 500+ watt amps, too, which means the cap will be able to supply the amp with full power for about 1/20th of a second before it is drained and the massive storage inside the battery takes over.

              49 joules doesn't add much to a 2.5 million joule battery.

              This discussion can go on into voltage loss across the cap as well as how the ESR and ESL of the cap figure into things as well, but I'll leave it at that for now. Caps are probably the biggest marketing gimmick in car audio.
              <b><a href=\"http://members.cox.net/95batmobile/d86f.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">Sinister Six©</b></a><br /><a href=\"http://www.sounddomain.com/id/95batmobile\" target=\"_blank\">My \'95 Bird</a><br />I am not afraid of storms, for I am learning how to sail my ship.

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              • #8
                Re: How to charge your audio capacitor

                ok buddy, first of all your using reference to a yellow top altima battery... of course that thing has like a billion mega joules!!! not everyobdy has one of those, most people go to an auto shop and just pick up the cheapest one. second, if u knew anything about caps you would realize that caps are not alternatives to struggling alternators, they are for a more consistent flow of electricity!! Which in turn gives the amp it's necessary voltage to make the subs sound good. My alternator and battery were fine before the cap, and they are certainly fine now with it, and i have a 1600 watt amp pushing two 1253 W subs. I could also hear a noticeable difference in the quality of the bass. You believe people buy caps simply to "take over" for an alternator and battery. so think about it for a minute and then tell me a cap is pointless.....
                Last edited by StrtRacer98; 10-28-2007, 09:01 PM.

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                • #9
                  Re: How to charge your audio capacitor

                  Wow. Beautiful reply.
                  <b><a href=\"http://members.cox.net/95batmobile/d86f.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">Sinister Six©</b></a><br /><a href=\"http://www.sounddomain.com/id/95batmobile\" target=\"_blank\">My \'95 Bird</a><br />I am not afraid of storms, for I am learning how to sail my ship.

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                  • #10
                    Re: How to charge your audio capacitor

                    Originally posted by 95Batmobile
                    Wow. Beautiful reply.

                    thanx, care to argue your point?

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                    • #11
                      Re: How to charge your audio capacitor

                      Read post #7. I gave plenty of facts to back myself up to which you replied "U TARD" about a dozen times and gave no proof to anything else that you said.
                      <b><a href=\"http://members.cox.net/95batmobile/d86f.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">Sinister Six©</b></a><br /><a href=\"http://www.sounddomain.com/id/95batmobile\" target=\"_blank\">My \'95 Bird</a><br />I am not afraid of storms, for I am learning how to sail my ship.

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                      • #12
                        Re: How to charge your audio capacitor

                        TKO, stop.

                        This won't go any further, ive already had to edit your posts, its not appreciated.



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                        he didn't attack you, so don't attack him
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                        • #13
                          Re: How to charge your audio capacitor

                          I only ask to defend my honor that has been beaten beyond recognition.

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                          • #14
                            Re: How to charge your audio capacitor

                            I can agree with both sides of this topic.

                            In the end.... customer comes in with slight headlight dimming problems. Buys and installs a 1 farad cap. Headlights no longer dim and customer is happy. This lasts for years without battery or alt issues.

                            I'm only going to preach for what I've seen with my own eyes. No one can argue that.
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                            • #15
                              Re: How to charge your audio capacitor

                              Originally posted by 96firebird311
                              I can agree with both sides of this topic.

                              In the end.... customer comes in with slight headlight dimming problems. Buys and installs a 1 farad cap. Headlights no longer dim and customer is happy. This lasts for years without battery or alt issues.

                              I'm only going to preach for what I've seen with my own eyes. No one can argue that.

                              Exactly.

                              It fixed my problem in the past as well... so im Pro capacitor :tup: but were not going to have a pissing match
                              *Matt


                              Old people shouldnt use the internet.

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