founders performance??

[LETZRIDE]

Anyone looked into these?

He's selling on ebay only, a quick google search found that a thirdgen site that had a couple people buy the parts and were quite happy...said the measurements were bang on, and the product looked good....price is right?

$69 for an adjustable panhard rod??

he has a set of LCAs and panhard for 106$...just a thought?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/82-02...Q5fAccessories

What do ya think?

[ssms5411]

Re: founders performance??

The rod ends might be harsh for a DD but they do have grease fittings, only thing that could be better if they were all adjustable. But the price is outstanding.

[97rs4life]

Re: founders performance??

my brother just ordered up some lca relocation brackets from them on ebay. Should be here next week, he just told me yesterday and that was the first time I heard of the company

[LETZRIDE]

Re: founders performance??

I think I will be ordering the adjustable panhard from them, one end poly the other end rod...

I dont think you can really screw up a part like this?...I believe the guys on thirdgen.com were saying for the poly bushings he uses ES bushings, so thats quality.

I just found them when I was browsing last night on ebay...like I said, I think Im gunna nab the panhard bar in the next day or so...

[T-Mill]

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Be sure and post up once you get it... I'll be in the phr market here soon

[LETZRIDE]

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will do...I dont think there is much to screw up on a phb...there are a few questions I gotta ask him though....like I want to make sure I can replace the rod end with another standard rod end that like umi or those guys sell if/when it goes bad...I dont want to have to scrap the whole phb because he used a unstandardized thread or something stupid...

[BallerMaro13]

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damn i wish i had heard about that seller when i was upgrading all of my suspension --- ridiculous deals :tup:

nice find!

[FirebirdGT]

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Buyer beware.

As an engineer, and past quality manager in the automotive OEM parts industry, I will NEVER buy suspension parts from a "mom&pop" welder. I've said this before, just because you have a welder doesn't mean you can weld properly. A grinder and powdercoat can hide a lot of defects. I'll pay the higher price for Hotchkis and Spohn - both used on GM prototypes.

[LETZRIDE]

Re: founders performance??

Buyer beware.

As an engineer, and past quality manager in the automotive OEM parts industry, I will NEVER buy suspension parts from a "mom&pop" welder. I've said this before, just because you have a welder doesn't mean you can weld properly. A grinder and powdercoat can hide a lot of defects. I'll pay the higher price for Hotchkis and Spohn - both used on GM prototypes.

it is buyer beware for sure...but if you think about it...hotchkis and spohn had to start somewhere right?

I'm by no means saying the quality is good, but from my quick google search it appears as if the people who have bought it are happy and say it "looks good"...now if you dont have a trained eye to look at that kinda stuff, I guess an imperfect one can look good lol.

I'm willing to give it a shot with the PHR just because if that ever breaks, it won't wreak havoc on the car...You can technically drive without them no? Crown vics and other rwd cars don't have them.

However I would be weary of buying control arms and such until I see the quality of a more subtle part like the PHR... The rest of my suspension is pretty much done, except for the odd thing I might redo like relocate the torque arm and sell the BMR one I have, or swap to QA1 shock/spring setup...

[T-Mill]

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I wish I had the money to buy a spohn, hotchkis, and founders and pit them against eachother in some strength and durability tests... maybe I'll run it by the university car club... we haven't been able to get approval from the University for any of our projects so everytime we raise any money for the club it ends up going to charity bc we never have anything to spend it on... this would be something actually productive that we could spend our money on and retain our funding...

[FirebirdGT]

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I'm willing to give it a shot with the PHR just because if that ever breaks, it won't wreak havoc on the car...You can technically drive without them no?

Are you kidding? If you're not -you have no idea how our rear suspension works!

Without the PHR, the first time you turn, the rear axle will rip out of the car! It's what keeps the rear positioned properly. The PHR is in compression or tension all the time. When in tension, the welds on your tubular PHR are stressed - if they are poorly done they will split.

[T-Mill]

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Letzride, I think you might be confusing the necessity for a PHR for the necessity of a sway bar...

neither of which you'd want to drive without really and as gt said, definitely not a PHR

[LETZRIDE]

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Are you kidding? If you're not -you have no idea how our rear suspension works!

Without the PHR, the first time you turn, the rear axle will rip out of the car! It's what keeps the rear positioned properly. The PHR is in compression or tension all the time. When in tension, the welds on your tubular PHR are stressed - if they are poorly done they will split.

Im no suspension expert...but I coulda swore Ive read before that you don't really need one? Many rwd cars don't even have them? I know cars all have different suspension setups, but I was under the impression that the crown vics had a very similar setup to us, and they don't have one?