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    i finally decided i need to replace my shocks. These are the 2 im looking at. there both around the same money. Is there a way that you can level the car out(make the rear drop a few inches)?

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/KONI-...Q5fAccessories


    http://www.amazon.com/Bilstein-Heavy...2002&carId=001

  • #2
    Re: koni vs blistein

    Of the two, the Konis are the better shocks, but I would check with the ebay seller - it looks like he's selling a set of four, but in his description it says the auction is for a front set...kind of contradictory. $400 for a set of 4 new Konis would be a great deal, I would snatch those up if that were the case.

    As far as lowering the rear, you need lowering springs to do that; the shocks have nothing to do with the ride height.

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    • #3
      Re: koni vs blistein

      Theres also QA-1's which will let you select your ride height. Or even a ground control setup. I love my QA-1's, paid about $800 for the set but it was worth every penny.
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      • #4
        Re: koni vs blistein

        do they make a spring just to lower the rear? I have the ground effects kit on my car so i cant lower my front anymore. I dont need the qa-1's, as much as i like them.

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        • #5
          Re: koni vs blistein

          The Konis and stock springs would allow for better handling and a more comfortable ride. You could even do the heater hose mod in the rear to help lower it 1/2".

          Unfortunately it looks like the link for the Konis is only for the front pair. You would need to get the rear set in either an on-car adjustable version or off-car adjustable version.
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          • #6
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            Originally posted by drhntr1 View Post
            do they make a spring just to lower the rear? I have the ground effects kit on my car so i cant lower my front anymore. I dont need the qa-1's, as much as i like them.
            Yes, you can buy just the rear springs - check Summit Racing (among others), they sell the BMR, Global West, and Eibach springs in pairs.

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            • #7
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              will it matter with the ride if i have lower springs in rear. also can we use v8 springs

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              • #8
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                V8 springs will actually lift your car a little. Seeing how they are made for heaver engine up front.

                BMR springs and bilstien HDs

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                • #9
                  Re: koni vs blistein

                  There are two types of Bilstiens - HD and SLP. The SLP setting is better.
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                  • #10
                    Re: koni vs blistein

                    Originally posted by whitdog54 View Post
                    V8 springs will actually lift your car a little. Seeing how they are made for heaver engine up front.

                    BMR springs and bilstien HDs
                    That would depend on if it was an LT1 spring or LS1 spring, seeing as the LS1 is a lighter engine than the 3.8l V6.
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                    • #11
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                      Originally posted by Mogobs30th View Post
                      That would depend on if it was an LT1 spring or LS1 spring, seeing as the LS1 is a lighter engine than the 3.8l V6.
                      I'm not so sure; BMR doesn't even make a separate spring for the V6. I have a pair on the front of my car, and they lowered it something like 1/4" to 3/8" IIRC, yet they advertise that they will drop the front 1.25" (on a V8 car). But no, they definitely didn't lift the car. Since I wasn't really looking for much drop in the front, that was fine by me.

                      The Eibach Pro-kit springs I have on the rear did drop the car about 1-1/4", but the soft rate of the progressive rate is just too soft IMO. I'm going to switch to a linear rate spring in the rear as soon as I get the chance.

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                      • #12
                        Re: koni vs blistein

                        Originally posted by drhntr1 View Post
                        will it matter with the ride if i have lower springs in rear. also can we use v8 springs
                        If you're talking about 98-02 springs, they have the same rates as your rear V6 springs and won't do anything different. V8 springs in the front will raise it up.

                        Mixing and matching springs without knowing the rates and how they work will lead to a car that has unpredictable handling. Using lowering springs with a stiffer rate in the rear with stock front springs will make your car sit funny and won't handle as well as the same spring all around. I used Konis and Strano springs in the rear for a month, and it left the rear of the car feeling tight compared to the sloppy front stock suspension. Not to mention the "static full throttle launching" stance looked stupid.

                        Like I mentioned earlier, you'd probably be best off using either Koni or Bilsteins with your stock springs and doing the heater hose mod in the rear to give it a slightly lowered look, without ruining your front ground effects. You'll get the benefit of better shocks, while still retaining a good predictable spring rate that is still comfortable driving around town.

                        Originally posted by Mogobs30th View Post
                        That would depend on if it was an LT1 spring or LS1 spring, seeing as the LS1 is a lighter engine than the 3.8l V6.
                        Not quite.

                        LS1 still weighs in a little more than our iron V6s, but not by much. Here are the OEM spring rates for the years and models...

                        Manufacturer .... Model .... Front (lbs/in) .... Rear (lbs/in) .... Ride Height Drop (in.)
                        OEM GM V6 ......... 93-97 ............. 223 ................... 95.4 ................. 0.00"
                        OEM GM V8 ......... 93-97 ............. 310 ................... 110 .................. 0.00"
                        OEM GM V6 ......... 98-02 ............. 257 ................... 114 .................. 0.00"
                        OEM GM V8 ......... 98-02 ............. 292 ................... 114 .................. 0.00"
                        1LE GM ................. 1LE .............. 360 ................ 130-180 .............. 0.00"
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                        Last edited by pace2006; 10-28-2010, 10:58 AM.
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                        • #13
                          Re: koni vs blistein

                          Originally posted by Mogobs30th View Post
                          That would depend on if it was an LT1 spring or LS1 spring, seeing as the LS1 is a lighter engine than the 3.8l V6.
                          STOCK LS1 springs will raise a v6 car. As well as LT1

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                          • #14
                            Re: koni vs blistein

                            Thx for yalls clearification. The mechanics of a car isnt my thing.

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                            • #15
                              Re: koni vs blistein

                              Originally posted by pace2006 View Post
                              Manufacturer .... Model .... Front (lbs/in) .... Rear (lbs/in) .... Ride Height Drop (in.)
                              OEM GM V6 ......... 93-97 ............. 223 ................... 95.4 ................. 0.00"
                              OEM GM V8 ......... 93-97 ............. 310 ................... 110 .................. 0.00"
                              OEM GM V6 ......... 98-02 ............. 257 ................... 114 .................. 0.00"
                              OEM GM V8 ......... 98-02 ............. 292 ................... 114 .................. 0.00"
                              1LE GM ................. 1LE .............. 360 ................ 130-180 .............. 0.00"
                              So if you ran 93-97 v6 springs on a 98-02 you would get some drop? or is that even possible

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