NEXT SUSPENSION MOD?

[FRENCH_CAMAROV6]

my first mod is a strut tower bar
(I'm waiting to the postman ;)

Shocks (Koni or HAL Stock Or Bilstein) ???

Or

Shocks and springs (and don't want to lower my car, the roads in France are such a mess)

Or
BMR Front & Rear Swaybar (32 & 21mm)


???

[FRENCH_CAMAROV6]

I have a hardtop camaro (no T-Top) ...
Do I need SFC?

[FRENCH_CAMAROV6]

It's a daily drive
I find it out of control in curves at 80-100mph
and in hard curves at low mph...

[SilverTAWS6]

Subframes are smart. They provide nice jacking points plus they really stiffen the body structure. If you want good handling, Koni or Bilstein shocks are good, the Bilsteins are cheaper and you don't have to adjust them (plus they retain a closer to stock ride quality). The swaybars will be a better choice then springs b/c they won't lower the car at all, but they will improve your handling.

Chris

[Wicked 3800 V6]

Trust me and don't do the 32/21 combo.

[5_spd_pewter_v6]

i wouldn't recommend the bmr front and rear bars. i have them, and the rear bar is too big for our cars, it creates too much oversteer. the front bmr bar is good to have, but from what i have seen some peopel get the 1le rear bar with the bmr and it was much closer to ideal, but still not perfect. if you want sway bars i would talk to v6bob, he really knows his stuff about suspension.

[V6Bob]

Personally, I'd go with shocks first (how many km on the car? Yours may be worn out). What tires do you have?

"Koni or Bilstein shocks are good, the Bilsteins are cheaper and you don't have to adjust them (plus they retain a closer to stock ride quality)."

Sounds about right, I have no personal experience.

By the way, it's a 1500 kg car. You can't drive it like a hot hatch. Smoothness is important.

"i would talk to v6bob, he really knows his stuff about suspension."

Thanks for the kind words, but I'm just a guy like you who reads a lot :D .

[FRENCH_CAMAROV6]

My car has 30000 miles...
I've got Bridgeston ER 30 215/60/16 , 'cause 245/50/16 are too expensive in europe ($300 per tire)...

[V6Bob]

"My car has 30000 miles..."

I suspect your shocks are about worn out.

[FireFighter]

300 bucks for 16's [img]graemlins/omg.gif[/img]

[FRENCH_CAMAROV6]

so let's go for shocks!
are springs just for droping the car?
Is there springs which increase drivability without droping the car?

[FRENCH_CAMAROV6]

yes $300 for 245/50/16 ($2800 for pirelli P6000 and 380 euros for michelin...)
Pain in the *** ...
150 euros /per tire for my bridegeston 215/60/16...
I was looking at tirerack.com, Your prices are simply crazy for us , the european...

[SilverTAWS6]

Springs do help in performance. I'd suggest maybe getting 1LE springs and revalved Bilstein shocks. The 1LE springs I don't believe drop the car at all (if so, probably less then .5"), and should be only slightly harsher then stock. Bilsteins are inexpensive shocks, but they work well, especially if they're revalved for the springs.

That will help somewhat, but you'll still be held back by the tires. They're thin with a lot of sidewall to roll on to. $300 a tire is crazy though...

Chris

[1998silverbird]

Subframes, Adjustable PHR, Poly urethane endlinks, WS6 or 1 LE Sway Bars, Sticky Tires, The lower the car the better in corners.. When I had my car lowered 1 1/2 inch it was fun in the corners.. Little to no body roll at all!! I have my car set up for drag racing now so I am selling my Eibach Spings..

[AllTheGoodNamesAreGone]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by FRENCH_CAMAROV6:
so let's go for shocks!
are springs just for droping the car?
Is there springs which increase drivability without droping the car?<hr></blockquote>

ever consider coil overs??


you can set them up to ride at stock hight.. and you get the benifit of stiffer springs..