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    Does anybody have them? If so, what kind of a difference do they make? I mean, I know they'll lessen the body twisting, but do they make any noticeable difference in cornering or acceleration in normal street conditions?
    Wife and a dog, they both think they\'re Kujo.<br /> <br />1999 3.8 A4 Y87<br />Navy Blue Metallic<br />BFG G-Force KDWS 275/40/17s, <br />WS6 Wheels (17x9)<br />Phoenix Transmissions 2400 Stall Converter<br />FRA, Holley Powershot filter, Whisper Lid, Ported Throttlebody<br />2000 manifolds, Flowmaster, WS6 Tail Pipes, <br />MSD 8.5mm Wires, MSD Coils, Autolite plugs<br />Performance Cryogenics treated rotors<br />1LE Sway Bars and panhard rod, 1LE front springs w/SLP Bilsteins, stock rear springs w/ 3rd Gen Bilsteins, BMR STB, KBDD SFCs, 1LE rear lower control arms, 1LE front lower control arms<p>1968 Chevelle Malibu 327 TH350

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    Simply put...YES!

    They make a huge improvement in body flex...etc...

    I've notice that my straight-line acceleration is better...
    My cornering is better because the body is held together tighter allowing the suspension to do more of the work!

    Sfc's are def. worth the money! I just wish I had done is sooner [img]smile.gif[/img]
    Justin<br /><a href=\"http://www.bass482.com/firebird/index.html\" target=\"_blank\"> 2000 Black Firebird A4 Y87<br /></a>170.2rwhp/203rwtq (SAE Corrected)

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    • #3
      <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Guardsman:
      I mean, I know they'll lessen the body twisting, but do they make any noticeable difference in cornering or acceleration in normal street conditions?<hr></blockquote>


      Yes if you have T-tops, maybe if you have a hardtop. If you plan on autocrossing, check the rules - they may be illegal.
      Robert - owner www.FirebirdV6.com/CamaroV6.com

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      • #4
        Have heard many good reviews about them. They reduce chassis twist during acceleration, improving traction, reduce brake dive and acceleration squat for more even ride, and more stable cornering at higher speeds. Well worth the cost. Also get a Engine Bay Brace To help with brake dive and cornering.
        2001 Arctic White Firebird<br />T-Tops, 3.42 rear gear stock<br />Mods:K&N Air Filter,Whisper Air Induction Lid, maf screen removed, raised air box, Kumho Ecsta 712 255-50-ZR16 tires, BMR stb<br />Mods not installed yet: FTRA, SLP Lsd/Differential cover<br />Near Future Mods: HPP3, GMMG 3\" Exhaust , 1LE Swaybars, Transgo Shift Kit, MSD-DIS-4 w/ Accel Coil-Packs, Turquoise Blue Neon Underbody Kit, BMR Adj. LCA\'s, G2 Sfc\'s & V-braces, Pacesetter headers

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        • #5
          Great fir everything but if you AutoX and you install SFCs, 2bolt kind, you will be slung into the arena with trans am's and z28s...
          2002 5-spd NBM Camaro
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          • #6
            <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by TheCardinal:
            Great fir everything but if you AutoX and you install SFCs, 2bolt kind, you will be slung into the arena with trans am's and z28s...<hr></blockquote>

            Aren't we already? I thought as soon as I lose amateur status I am in GT Prepared section. I actually beat a z28, that had slicks on.

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            • #7
              Just had mine installed Saturday the 9th... to early to notice. The ones I have are weld on variety. Still could bolt them too the hols are there in the new peice but no in the car frame.
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              • #8
                Too early to notice? I noticed immediately and i have a hardtop car. To my suprise they seemed to cut down on some body roll which i did not expect from them. A GREAT mod.
                <b>Matt</b><br /><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/member_pages/view_page.pl?page_id=377225&page=1\" target=\"_blank\">\'96 Camaro Z28 M6</a><br /><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/member_pages/view_page.pl?page_id=377225&page=3\" target=\"_blank\">\'96 Camaro M5</a>

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                • #9
                  I'm thinking hard about them. My car has developed a slight leak in the t-tops in opposite corners (driver front, passenger rear) which makes me think I have a little twist.

                  Hey, it just occurred to me, I go to the drive through car wash (touchless) and the driver front tire is up on a stop... I bet that creates a little bit of twist. hmmm... May have to resort to hand washing. (not so bad in the summer, but winter is a different story).

                  Anyway, I still am thinking about them. And the bar for under the hood, across the spring towers.
                  \'98 A4 Camaro v6-&gt;v8 conversion, and STS kit next<br />v6: 13.6 Powerdyne, 13.2 150 shot, 13.8 120 shot, 14.3 85 shot, 15.7 stock<br />v8(na): 12.18@113, 392rwhp<br />Moderator on <a href=\"http://www.mtfba.org\" target=\"_blank\">www.mtfba.org</a> and <a href=\"http://www.frrax.com\" target=\"_blank\">www.frrax.com</a> (Road Race & Autocross)<br /><a href=\"http://community.webshots.com/user/johnduncan10\" target=\"_blank\">Car pics</a>, <a href=\"http://www.trscca.com\" target=\"_blank\">TN Region SCCA</a>

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                  • #10
                    I've got rk sport tubular and I love them!!!!
                    Mine is a t top bird.
                    Launching and twisties are awesome!!!!
                    Race car - gone but not forgotten - 1997 firebird V6
                    nitrous et & mph: 12.168 & 110.95 mph, n/a 13.746 & 96.38 mph
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                    • #11
                      Cool, thanks all. I'll have to add them in the future, got too many other things I'm paying for now, and the wife wants upgrades for her stuff too (can you say 1+ carats? :eek: ) .

                      [ March 14, 2002: Message edited by: Guardsman ]

                      [ March 14, 2002: Message edited by: Guardsman ]</p>
                      Wife and a dog, they both think they\'re Kujo.<br /> <br />1999 3.8 A4 Y87<br />Navy Blue Metallic<br />BFG G-Force KDWS 275/40/17s, <br />WS6 Wheels (17x9)<br />Phoenix Transmissions 2400 Stall Converter<br />FRA, Holley Powershot filter, Whisper Lid, Ported Throttlebody<br />2000 manifolds, Flowmaster, WS6 Tail Pipes, <br />MSD 8.5mm Wires, MSD Coils, Autolite plugs<br />Performance Cryogenics treated rotors<br />1LE Sway Bars and panhard rod, 1LE front springs w/SLP Bilsteins, stock rear springs w/ 3rd Gen Bilsteins, BMR STB, KBDD SFCs, 1LE rear lower control arms, 1LE front lower control arms<p>1968 Chevelle Malibu 327 TH350

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                      • #12
                        Do they help with convertables as well? I've noticed my bros 97 Camaro conv has more shake to it than my car.
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                        • #13
                          They are more effective on converts than they are on t-tops or coupes. Converts need them more.
                          2000 Firebird convert, chameleon/tan, M5, Y87, TCS, BMR tower brace and panhard, KBDD sfcs, 245/50-16 GSCs

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                          • #14
                            I have a convertable and yes the body twist is a lot more noticeable then my buddy who has a hardtop. where bouts do i get a good set of SFC i see bmr has some i don't have much money, but looking into a good set that don't cost too much that i can have welded on this summar
                            1997 Firebird Convertable White, with custom Purple pin striping and custom Purple detailing!!!<br />Y87 Performance Package W68 Apperance Package<br />Boydes, aluminum rims 16\" BMR STB <br />SLP Cold Air Intake 3\"hiflow cat 3\" dynomax custom catback, 2.5\" Flowmaster 80. Slp Take off Shocks, Springs And Struts. Transgo shift kit with corvette servo!<br />Sony Explode CD Player Kicker Comp VR 12, and Explode 760Watt amp!!!<br />5% Tint on the side windows, Correction officially 2% on the side windows, or at least that is what the highpo said and 15% on my rear window<br />Yup Purdy Car!!

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                            • #15
                              Just some info I want to throw in. I was reading up in a book on tuning and modifying 3rd and 4th gen f-bodies. It states in for Autocrossing first mod to do is Tires, then for 3rd and 4th gens a Strut tower Brace, then in 3rd gens, subframe connectors, then a roll cage, and in 4th gens a roll cage, then subframe connectors.

                              They will help on a 4th gen, especially a non coupe, but a roll cage would help more. But then again you are installing a roll cage, which is not easy or cheap.

                              Isn't there a roll bar that people put in converts? I swear I have seen them on 4th gens, I know I have seen them on other cars, that should really stiffen the chassis.

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