Spring Question

[DominusEtDeusNatus]

SLP Bilsteins are softer then HD Bilsteins.

[moneyshotz]

what will that do for my 1/4 time?

[DominusEtDeusNatus]

If you don't have money to get the right shocks for the ProKit then don't get the Pro Kit. This is a quote from someone who had that combo.
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"The ride with the ProKit is much stiffer, and with those stock, old decarbons, you've got a fairly bad setup. I'm using the Bilsteins that are recommended for the ProKit by shox.com (not the softer SLP setup) and while the ride isn't horrendous, the ride in my car is pretty rough.

For drag racing, the ProKit is pretty much the opposite of what you want, so I don't have much to help with there, unless you want to swap springs and shocks every time you race."

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Stiffer springs will shock the tires loose more easily due to not enough dampening. You can resolve some of that with shocks. SLP Bilsteins are very bad with Pro Kit. HD Bilsteins are better, but still will get worked heavily and not do their job. You can either get them revalved to handle the Pro Kit or don't get the Pro Kit. SLP Take-offs are worse then Bilsteins even.

[moneyshotz]

So if I wanted to get a set of lowering springs. What should i get?

[DominusEtDeusNatus]

Just an FYI:

Bilstein has lowered their prices on the front 4th gen shocks, and they did so substantially.

The new price for the set of 4 HD's is $299.00 plus freight (old price was $400)

If you wish to have the fronts revalved for heavier and/or shorter springs, the price of 4 (front revalved, rear off the shelf) is now $450 (old price was $550).


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[Cale]

Sam Strano actually recommended the Eibachs w/ the regular Bilstein HDs for a V6. Interesting. He claimed that one would not be happy on a V6 w/ revalved Bilsteins.

[moneyshotz]

This is exactly what Sam Strano said

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Lowering Camaro
Sam Strano 03/21/2002-02:07pm
Money,

First, for V-6 Camaro's I usually do not revalve the shocks. If I installed the revalving I do on a V-6 car with it's lighter front end, you wouldn't be happy. There is actually too much damping.

In your case, regular Bilstein HD's would be more than adequate (and less money). Eibach also makes a pro-kit specially for the lighter V-6 car. Those teamed up with the Bilstein HD's would be great.

As for LCA's, I don't use them. They are not legal for the classes I autocross in. But even without them, the cars seem to hook up really well (if given proper thought).

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So what exactly does he mean about the LCA's? I don't need them?

[Guardsman]

Moneyshotz, with the LCA's, he's probably talking about reinforced ones. I also asked Sam about the SLP Bilsteins, he said that the rebound on them is too hard, so that they would start packing the front if you hit multiple bumps in quick succession. Basically, if you hit a bunch of bumps in a row, the SLP's wouldn't fully rebound before you hit the next bump, so each time, the shocks would get lower and lower. He recommended using the HDs, at least with the stock springs.
I'm going to try using stock V8 springs up front, and stock rears. One other guy on this board did that, his is a '94, but he said they actually lowered the front by like 3/4". I'll have to see with mine, since the 98-up cars use different springs. According to the technical database, the front V6 springs are 225lbs/in, and the front V8 springs are 292lb/in, so it's a pretty healthy increase. The rears are the same for V6s and V8s. The only concern I have with putting the V8s on the front is whether the V8 springs will ride higher with the lighter weight of my front end. I'll just have to see.
The only problem that I have with the 1LEs is that the fronts are linear rate, which means they're just plain stiff. If they were progessive rate, then I'd look into them. If my rear springs seem too soft, I may look at the rear 1LEs, since those are progressive rate springs.

[DominusEtDeusNatus]

Linear is much easier for the shock to control. It's mush easier to feel the car through a corner since you have same stiffness and it's not changing on you all the time. I personally prefer linear.

You're going to have one understeering car with V8 fronts and V6 rears. I doubt you're going to like it.