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    Hotchks lowering springs, BMR STB, and BMR panhard bar. Any tricky stuff i need to know on installing this stff? Or are they all straight forwad? And is there anything that i should order to compliment this stuff?
    2002 M5 camaro- VTR CAI, custom cat-back exhaust, battery compacitor, pullie, lowering springs, 32mm sway bar, cross-drilled slotted rotars. 1-10\" L7 in cubby.

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    I am surprised that a lot of people haven't spoken up about getting shocks at the same time that you get lowering springs. If you do a search you will see what I am talking about.
    98 Silver Camaro V6<br />15.238 @91.74 w/ 2.288 60\'<br />Mods: K&N, FTRA, Pacesetter Headers, Spec 3 Clutch, 160 Thermo, TSP Rumbler, 3\" Catco, Whisper Lid, 3.42\'s w/LSD, Aluminum DS, Man Fan Switch<br /><br /> <a href=\"http://www.cardomain

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    • #3
      I don't have the money to do shocks right now, so i figure i might as well lower it now to get the look, and install shocks later. I am doing all the work so it isn't a waist of money, only time.
      2002 M5 camaro- VTR CAI, custom cat-back exhaust, battery compacitor, pullie, lowering springs, 32mm sway bar, cross-drilled slotted rotars. 1-10\" L7 in cubby.

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      • #4
        time = money so therefore wasted time = wasted money ;) . Congrats on the purchase.
        2001 Arctic White Firebird With Black Drop Top<br /><br />3:42 Gears<br />Zexel LSD<br />BMR upper A-Arms<br />Trans Am exhaust with 3\" I-pipe and cutout<br />Modified intake<br />Mecham Hood<br />Trans Go shift kit<br />Making rear control arms and panhard

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        • #5
          The problem is that the stock shocks are not strong enough to control the stiff lowering springs.

          Suspension mods are tricky. It's really easy to put on some parts that you think are "better" and make your car handle worse, if you don't have the right combination. Stock shocks and lowering springs are a good example. Modding your suspension without understanding how it all works together is dangerous.

          Personally, I wouldn't install the lowering springs without proper shocks. It's more than just time or money, it's making your car handle badly.
          2000 Firebird convert, chameleon/tan, M5, Y87, TCS, BMR tower brace and panhard, KBDD sfcs, 245/50-16 GSCs

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          • #6
            Well i allready have really good tires, and my springs are progressive and only drop me an inch, so not as harsh as the eibachs, i am not to worried, i don't race, it is more for looks anyways.
            2002 M5 camaro- VTR CAI, custom cat-back exhaust, battery compacitor, pullie, lowering springs, 32mm sway bar, cross-drilled slotted rotars. 1-10\" L7 in cubby.

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            • #7
              I would just wait and get some shocks...you dont need to deal with the time of taking everything out twice...
              Good choice on the hotchkis. I got em and love em.
              Shawn<br />2002 Silver W68 Firebird

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              • #8
                Nonetheless, you need some better shocks on that car for those heavy springs. Not even bilstein HDs are stiff enough to handle them, honestly. Truth be told you should be buying Koni shocks or having some Bilsteins revalved by Sam Strano.

                Get some shocks, save your install money until you do. Looks wont kill you, bad shocks will.
                2002 5-spd NBM Camaro
                Details: www.1lev6.com

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                • #9
                  I don't need money to install, i do it myself, i work at a shop and have access to all the equipment. And the fact is i don't have the money for shocks and it is going to be a LONG time until i can afford them.
                  2002 M5 camaro- VTR CAI, custom cat-back exhaust, battery compacitor, pullie, lowering springs, 32mm sway bar, cross-drilled slotted rotars. 1-10\" L7 in cubby.

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                  • #10
                    Its true that not upgrading your shocks to match the upgraded springs isn't the best thing to do but its really not that bad guys. Ive been running my intrax springs for half a year now and I've never noticed any handling aspects that seemed dangerous. Rough roads, wet roads, icy roads, been on all of em for extended periods with my current setup and have had no problems. Bilstein HD's are comin soon but I think the notion that the car becomes wildy dangerous isnt far fetched necessarily but definatley exaggerated, it really isn't that bad.

                    As far as hassle goes it's definatley a pain to put springs on, then have to take em back off to put on the shocks, well the front springs anyway the back springs are cake. If you aren't gonna get shocks for a long time like me I'd say just put em on and do the shocks later.
                    99 3.8 Camaro<br />Intake Mods: K&N filter, Whisper lid, free ram air, !air silencer, !maf screen<br />Exhaust Mods: Flowmaster 80 series, 3\" I-pipe, 3\" Cutout<br />Suspension: Intrax Springs (2\" drop)<br />Misc.: Fan switch mod, Hayden transmission cooler

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                    • #11
                      I'm sorry, I'll have to go with you getting the shocks along with your springs too. If you work at the shop, you should know that it's a pain in the *** taking the front springs out, compressing them, and then doing the reverse. I really would do everything all at once.
                      Tom<br />Too many mods for this sig.<br /><a href=\"http://www.l337server.com/Tom/cars.html\" target=\"_blank\">My car\'s site</a><br /><br /><a href=\"http://www.FullThrottleV6.com\" target=\"_blank\">www.FullThrottleV6.com</a>

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                      • #12
                        Well i just finished my spring install...good times.
                        2002 M5 camaro- VTR CAI, custom cat-back exhaust, battery compacitor, pullie, lowering springs, 32mm sway bar, cross-drilled slotted rotars. 1-10\" L7 in cubby.

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                        • #13
                          THe lower control arms, pandrod and STB are straight forward and since you got a lift real easy then.

                          I would wait for the new shocks/struts to change the springs so you don't have to take off the front and compress the springs and such twice.

                          Its always a good idea to get a alignment afther your springs settle so you dont mess up your angles.
                          1999 Pontiac Trans Am M6 Far from stock.....
                          Pics http://rides.webshots.com/album/5599...Dk?vhost=rides

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                          • #14
                            i would have waited if i were you
                            2000 3.8 A4 Pewter Camaro

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