would 18s slow me down

[Jerriko]

Originally posted by 1DangerousV6:
taller side wall is said to give better traction during launch..but i dunno..this is what i noticed running 3 times NA (i forget mph)..same burnout..same stall/launch..

18" C5s w/ BFG drag radials 15.67
18" C5s w/ BFG drag radials 15.67
16" Weld pro star XPs with M/T ET Streets 15.68

..basically..i didnt see any difference..could make a difference once i hit the juice though..not sure

Sorry, there are so many things wrong with your car, I don't trust any numbers that come from it.

Anyways, it doesn't matter if the overall tire height is the same (16's vs 18's w/ low profile tires). I am talking about the weight. Metal is heavier than rubber. The more metal, the more weight. Why do people install aluminum driveshafts? Titanium axles? Aluminum and/or drilled rotors? Aluminum flywheels? All of those parts reduced rotating mass. Heavier wheels required more power to turn them. Shirl, maybe your car is just an exception since your running high 11s. I don't know.

[1DangerousV6]

uhh..as far as i know theres nothing wrong with my car at all..i have been over the suspension, engine, and tuning with pros..just because it could be faster doesnt necesarily mean theres anything WRONG with it..but even IF there was something wrong with it..whatevers wrong wouldve most likely been there for all 3 runs..therefor resulting in the same differences between the 3 runs as if whatever was wrong with it was correct :rolleyes:

[Jerriko]

Go flip your eyes elsewhere. You are not intelligent enough to realize that your car is not right. I'm not the only person here to realize that, just maybe the only person to say anything about it.

And honestly, I can't even believe that this is an argument. Countless times in the past, this as been brought up and over and over it was stated that heavier wheels slow a car down. Why this time is it different?

[ April 29, 2005, 03:00 PM: Message edited by: Jerriko ]

[1DangerousV6]

i believe when James first went to the track with his bird he ran 16.7 ..that was with everything stock..computer, engine, tranny, everything..correct me if im wrong but the rated time for our cars is 15.7 ..that doesnt mean anything is was WRONG with it..just means it could go faster..and he damn well modified it to do so..as i am doing with my car..some people run 16s stock while other people are running LOW 15s stock..every car is different..but that doesnt mean that the slower cars are defective..now im not going to be part of you ruining yet another imformative thread..so..im out....you gotta let it go man

EDIT -- that 16.7 was WITH an intake and K&N filter

[Jerriko]

Originally posted by 1DangerousV6:
i believe when James first went to the track with his bird he ran 16.8 ..that was with everything stock..computer, engine, tranny, everything..correct me if im wrong but the rated time for our cars is 15.7 ..that doesnt mean anything is was WRONG with it..just means it could go faster..and he damn well modified it to do so..as i am doing with my car..some people run 16s stock while other people are running LOW 15s stock..every car is different..but that doesnt mean that the slower cars are defective..now im not going to be part of you ruining yet another imformative thread..so..im out....you gotta let it go man

Actually, you have to let it go. This thread isn't about you so stop inserting yourself. I am not saying slower cars are broken, just yours b/c you don't know what you are doing. You had the engine 'professionally' built and you can't tell anyone what you had done to it (just another example).

[1DangerousV6]

forged pistons, rings, rods, bored .030 over, stock CR..i believe i've said that before..i could know nothing about cars..i could be a bad driver (although my consisntancy says otherwise)..that does not effect my ability to get in the car and push the gas to conduct this test..i meant you have to let it go because your personal problem with me just wastes space..and shows people that YOU dont know what you're doing..anything you say is just because of a problem with me..and therefor..is USELESS..but you know so much??..ok..lets put you to the test..you have my complete mod list on my site..i can send you my tune and a log file like i have done for others..why dont we see what YOU know that ALLLL these others dont??

[Jerriko]

Originally posted by 1DangerousV6:
forged pistons, rings, rods, bored .030 over, stock CR..i believe i've said that before..i could know nothing about cars..i could be a bad driver (although my consisntancy says otherwise)..that does not effect my ability to get in the car and push the gas to conduct this test..i meant you have to let it go because your personal problem with me just wastes space..and shows people that YOU dont know what you're doing..anything you say is just because of a problem with me..and therefor..is USELESS..but you know so much??..ok..lets put you to the test..you have my complete mod list on my site..i can send you my tune and a log file like i have done for others..why dont we see what YOU know that ALLLL these others dont??

Again, its all about you. You think I am the only person who doubts your ability. Didn't James just say that he doubted you in the nitrous section? But again, that's my point. You talked earlier about how James' car ran 16.7 stock in defense of your car running mid-high 15s n/a. But as you just mentioned, you have ALL of those mods in your car and it still runs 15 sec passes. Actions always speak louder than words. But now I am off to enjoy my weekend vacation. Enjoy!

[1DangerousV6]

anyone can say whatever they want about my car and my times..you tell me this isnt about me yet YOU keep bringing up my car....again..proving how little you know..the only mods that i have done to my car that add power NA is intake and exhaust..POSSIBLY a couple horses from the bored cylinders..but thats pretty much it..and i never expected you to accept my challenge..in short....thats what i thought [img]graemlins/slap.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/wavey.gif[/img]

[Jerriko]

Hello to anyone in Chicago!!!
Anyways, it's too bad that you can't even keep track of your own mods. Or since you screwed up the custom tune w/ HP Tuners, you just don't count that one. [img]graemlins/slap.gif[/img]
And we would not be talking about you (or your car) if you hadn't of brought yourself (or your car) up. I was trying to figure out why suddenly people thought that heavier wheels DIDN'T make your car slower. [img]graemlins/slap.gif[/img]
You try to use your car as an example. An example of what I don't know.

[Shirl]

Wow, it's not that big of a deal... I was just saying what I found... didn't mean to get any kind of argument going... there are too many things to factor in with this anyway, such as weight, tire height, and even conditions, so it's pointless to argue about it. It would make sense that it would slow you down if the wheels are bigger. It would also make sense that they wouldn't if they are the same height, weight, overall diameter.

[Jerriko]

Originally posted by Shirl:
Wow, it's not that big of a deal... I was just saying what I found... didn't mean to get any kind of argument going... there are too many things to factor in with this anyway, such as weight, tire height, and even conditions, so it's pointless to argue about it. It would make sense that it would slow you down if the wheels are bigger. It would also make sense that they wouldn't if they are the same height, weight, overall diameter.

Yes, if weight is the same, it would not be a factor. But it seems that most of the larger diameter wheels are heavier.

And Shirl, don't worry about the seemingly pointless bickering. Regardless of the subject, it probably won't end. I just can't stand a person who doesn't know what he's talking about trying to give advice to others.

[beeker82]

so after all of that would polished 17s make a huge difference on normal street driving???my car isnt quick at all,im modding it a small bit at a time but after that its going not going to be very quick,i just dont want put money into wheels and tires if they slow my car down quite a bit

[Shirl]

Probably not.. just go for it and be happy [img]smile.gif[/img]

[Jerriko]

Originally posted by Shirl:
Probably not.. just go for it and be happy [img]smile.gif[/img]

What she said.

[1DangerousV6]

i didnt give any advice..i didnt say to go one way or another..simply posted my own findings just like Shirl..its not because im better than you..its because comments that come from a personal problem are SO easy to correct..you let your anger show your stupidity..me?..i dont have any anger..so i dont have any problem [img]smile.gif[/img]