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    who put sub connectors on their car? are they sweet or what
    Heady Navy Blue Metalic<br />Heady Catback Flowmasters<br />Heady Bilstien HDs, PAnhard rod, LCAs,SFCs<br />NGK\'s and MSD Wires, K&N flowin + Smooth Bellow<br />Y87 3800 GT Performance.<br />I love the way this car makes turns!<br /><br />1989 black Camoaro RS. R.I.P.

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    I have the welded connectors, and I felt the difference right away when I first installed them. The car also has less creeks and rattles too.
    My recommendation, they are worth it!
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    • #3
      what kind do u have, the double diamond or the straight ones? tubular ot box type?
      Heady Navy Blue Metalic<br />Heady Catback Flowmasters<br />Heady Bilstien HDs, PAnhard rod, LCAs,SFCs<br />NGK\'s and MSD Wires, K&N flowin + Smooth Bellow<br />Y87 3800 GT Performance.<br />I love the way this car makes turns!<br /><br />1989 black Camoaro RS. R.I.P.

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      • #4
        I recently installed some tubular Edelbrock's on mine and I too recommend them. Lots of rattles and squeeks gone plus the car is so much stiffer now. Now more loosey goosey feeling.
        <b>Black</b> 1998 Pontiac <i>Firebird</i> A-4 swap<br />271.4rwhp/259.4rwtq NA<br />13.30@102.44 <br /><a href=\"http://www.freewebs.com/wickedsix98\" target=\"_blank\">www.freewebs.com/wickedsix98</a>

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        • #5
          I went with a straight box sfc, but I would like to cut them off and put the double diamond sfc's in. The ones currently on my car are showing their age, and I would like to install new ones anyway.
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          • #6
            My personal opinions:

            Subframe connectors stiffen the chassis nicely. It's more important if you have t-tops, and much more important if you have a convert.

            What kind you get matters little. There's no data on which are better. People look at designs and guess. Everyone likes their particular sfcs.

            Proper installation is very important. It's a lot of welding which could damage your car if not done correctly. If the car is not resting on its wheels, you could twist the chassis and weld the twist in place.
            2000 Firebird convert, chameleon/tan, M5, Y87, TCS, BMR tower brace and panhard, KBDD sfcs, 245/50-16 GSCs

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            • #7
              Originally posted by V6Bob:
              Proper installation is very important. It's a lot of welding which could damage your car if not done correctly. If the car is not resting on its wheels, you could twist the chassis and weld the twist in place.
              Forgot to mention this, but it is extremely important! I rested my car on 4 (same brand) ramps, level ground, and proper tire inflation on all 4 tires, not to mention that it was professionally aligned a week before. Any little offset will be welded into place, and throw your car's alignment off permanently. So be careful if you do this yourself, or who you choose to do the welding for you. It is absolutely crutial that the sfc's are done correctly.
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              • #8
                These are nice
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                • #9
                  Where is a good place in philly to get subframes welded in? I'm moving to Philly Aug1.
                  2002 5-spd NBM Camaro
                  Details: www.1lev6.com

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Dominic:
                    Where is a good place in philly to get subframes welded in? I'm moving to Philly Aug1.
                    This guy was recommended to me when I was looking to have them installed, but I ended up buying my own welder and installing them myself. I even forget who recommended that guy to me.
                    There is another shop that does auto suspension repair where I work, but I don't know if they do sfc's. I'll get back to you.

                    Do you know where you are moving to? Northeast philly, south philly, etc?
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                    • #11
                      I'll be moving to Elkins Park - 19027. It's northern Philly I guess [img]smile.gif[/img] I'm attending optometry school up there.
                      2002 5-spd NBM Camaro
                      Details: www.1lev6.com

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Dominic:
                        I'll be moving to Elkins Park - 19027. It's northern Philly I guess [img]smile.gif[/img] I'm attending optometry school up there.
                        Nice area, right outside of Northeast Philly. Contact me once you get here.
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                        • #13
                          just a shout to anyone wanting double diamonds, they aren't that great, they are made of pretty flimsy stuff. Yeah they help some but you will be sadly disappointed when you pull them out of the box, I know I was.
                          -Brad
                          98 Firebird - gone from mod mode to keep it running and useable mode.
                          2000 V-Star Custom 1100
                          If all else fails use a bigger hammer!
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                          • #14
                            Thanksn for the info on the diamond design black98v6. I'm looking into beefing up my suspension and was toiling over the diamond design or the straight box design. Again thanks for the info guys.
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                            • #15
                              The double diamonds have less diameter and maybe less thickness. But they put that metal in better places and triangulate the structure which is a very strong way to go. It's like a bicycle frame. The individual pieces are light (on a good bike you could easily bend them with your bare hands), but the whole is strong.

                              The fact is nobody knows whether any sfcs are significantly stiffer than any others. Nobody has tested them or tried them back to back on identical cars.

                              People just look at them and guess. Personally, I'd put little value on those random guesses and choose sfcs by other concerns.
                              2000 Firebird convert, chameleon/tan, M5, Y87, TCS, BMR tower brace and panhard, KBDD sfcs, 245/50-16 GSCs

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