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  • What is the point of having a rod ended PHR??

    OK, so i was setting up my rear suspension the other day.. and i was installing my pan hard rod..

    I was thinking about it.. and i dident understand why it had rod ends.. i meen.. they are cool.. but they dont make all that much sence..

    the stock part is one solid bushing that wont allow any twisting.. and that makes sence becuase the PHR is there to keep your rear end from moving side to side.. not front to back..

    So, wouldent it make more sence to just have one solid piece of steal on the end, then a rod end? due to the fact that it allows undesired motion front to back, and requiers spacers.. if you took out the rod end i bet things would be alot quieter also..

    I may just be compleatly wrong, and feal free to correct/explane it to me..

    thanks,
    ~Billy

  • #2
    I agree, I cannot understand how a rod ended PHR is useful other than having zero deflection.
    2002 5-spd NBM Camaro
    Details: www.1lev6.com

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    • #3
      yeah.. I just dont see the advantage over something solid.. anyone else have a good explanaton?

      ~Billy

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      • #4
        It is called Marketing. :D

        A lot of aftermarket stuff is no better than the factory, and some is worse.
        Robert - owner www.FirebirdV6.com/CamaroV6.com

        "Mid-life crisis? I'm way beyond that!"

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        • #5
          Hmm, I was thinking the same way you guys were. But after thinking about it just now, I realize why a rod end PHR would be good.

          As the rear moves up and down over bumps and such, it doesn't move straight, it pivots on a slight angle due to the way it is connected. Since it pivots on a slight angle, a bushing will give a slight amount of bind. A rod end PHR will give 0 bind since it allows for the PHR to have some movement front to back.

          After saying that, I would think that the minimal bind that you would experience is not enough to justify all the extra noise a rod end will transmit to the cabin.

          Chris
          <b>2002 BSM TransAm WS.6 M6</b><br /><b>350rwhp, 365rwtq</b><br /><b>Stock:</b>13.455 @ 105.39 2.129 60\'<br /><b>Mod:</b>12.449 @ 113 1.832 60\'<br /><br /><b>2004 QSM GTO M6</b><br /><b>303rwhp, 329rwtq</b><br />Stock: 13.74 @ 102.14 2.1 60\'<br /><br /> <a href=\"http://members.cardomain.com/silvertaws6\" target=\"_blank\">http://members.cardomain.com/silvertaws6</a> <br /><br /><b>1984 Firebird S/E M5</b><br />2.8L

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          • #6
            yeah, I dunno.. in theory your LCA's shuld be controlling the front to back movement.. and that little bit of play in the PHR shuld allow it to all move properly.. but I think rod ended PHR's dont allow enough play.. thus resulting in the chatter.. I dont really mind the moise soo much.. but.. I dont think its worth the benifit..

            Any other ideas?

            ~Billy

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            • #7
              Your PHR shouldn't *twist* so there isn't a need for rod ends there, technically.

              I would simply upgrade the bushings in the stocker and leave it at that, its all you need unless you're somehow bending the stock PHR, and thats unlikely.
              2002 5-spd NBM Camaro
              Details: www.1lev6.com

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              • #8
                it's possible, depending on how many G's ur pushing. I'm sure it'll help u hold on a skidpad better.
                2001 Arctic White Firebird<br />More mods than I\'m allowed to list!

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