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  • SFC, What Brand, Bolt-on, or Weld On?

    I'm planning on getting some SFC and I want to know which is better, bolt-on's or weld-on's? Also which brand to get? I'm leaning more towards Kenny Brown DD, or SLP. I've already searched this tpoic and cannot find the answers I'm looking for. My car is lowered two inches also. If I get weld on's, what do I do to take them off, will it mess up the my underside of my car if I cut them off? Need some help! Please not smart remarks [img]smile.gif[/img]
    Black 99 M5 Camaro \"6BANGER\"<p>Sport Appearance Package, Whisper Lid, SLP Cold Air Kit, K&N Filter,Dynomax Custom Cat-Back, BMR STB, Jet Stage II Module, Centerforce Dual Friction Clutch, Hurst Shifter with Custom Short Stick, RKSport 2\" Drop Springs, SS Hood, Poly Tranny Mount & TA Bushing, SLP 3.42 Gears with LSD, All Amsoil Synthetic Lubricants

  • #2
    weld on would be best... BMR has some low clearance, tublar SFCs and they have a really good price ...139.99

    BMR SFC

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    • #3
      Do you race the vehicle?
      2002 5-spd NBM Camaro
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      • #4
        I would also like to know more about SFCs, as I would like to get them for my birthday. What about the LG Motorsports ones? Don't they have a V or X brace?

        I will not be racing; I just want better handling and less rattles
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        • #5
          I would recommend anything that is welded. BMR usually is a pretty good bargain, thats what I got. Up to you just make sure to get SFC that are welded. :eek:
          <b>Red 1999 Firebird M5</b><br />Whisper Lid,Borla Catback,K&N,Dual Friction Center Force Clutch,Hurst Shifter w/Lou\'s Short Stick,!FRA,Suncoast Ramair hood,160 Thermo,!maf,Chrome ZO6 Wheels, Painted Calipers, CIA Headers, Taylor Wires, NGK Spark Plugs, 3\" Catco, Jet Chip Stage II, BMR STB, LCA, PHR, SFC, Fan Switch, FTRA<br /><b>Old Dyno Numbers: 183 RWHP, 217 RWTRQ</b><br /><a href=\"http://community.webshots.com/user/redsixer\" target=\"_blank\">http://community.webshots.com/user/redsixer</a>

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          • #6
            <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Redsix:
            I would recommend anything that is welded. BMR usually is a pretty good bargain, thats what I got. Up to you just make sure to get SFC that are welded. :eek: <hr></blockquote>Welded CONSTRUCTION of the SFC itself, or welded TO THE CAR?
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            • #7
              Welded to the car. Also the SFC's construction should be welded otherwise it's useless.
              ---<br />-\'95 3.4L M5 Camaro

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              • #8
                Welding is obviously stronger than bolting, and the sfcs see considerable strain.

                Most everyone likes their sfcs, it's hard to find bad ones. The worst problem would be poor fit, and that doesn't seem to come up much.

                Most important. They need to be installed by a pro. The car needs to be lifted on its' wheels, otherwise you're liable to twist the chassis and then weld the twist in.
                2000 Firebird convert, chameleon/tan, M5, Y87, TCS, BMR tower brace and panhard, KBDD sfcs, 245/50-16 GSCs

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                • #9
                  just for a little added info I have been looking into kenny brown double diamonds and install at places that have done them before have varied between 200, 225, 250 and 300. The guy that quoted 200, said it would be a little less with a different SFC but since they require a little more work 200.
                  -Brad
                  98 Firebird - gone from mod mode to keep it running and useable mode.
                  2000 V-Star Custom 1100
                  If all else fails use a bigger hammer!
                  :rock:

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                  • #10
                    Diffinatly get weld in ones. I have BMR stuff my self. Good products & fair pricing.

                    SFC's are good for T-Top cars!
                    *OneQuickSix*<br />1998 3.8L V-6 Camaro<br />~A4 w/Y87~

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                    • #11
                      I have mac welded subframes on mine and they were 110.00 and cost 60.00 to weld up..
                      Jeff ..
                      1998 Firebird.. Built 3.8 with a 125 shot.. 370rwhp,415rwtq.. stock tune!! sold

                      2002 WS6 T/A.. Bolt ins..448rwhp
                      2009 G8 GT.. Vararam intake, GXP axleback
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                      • #12
                        <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by black98V6:
                        just for a little added info I have been looking into kenny brown double diamonds and install at places that have done them before have varied between 200, 225, 250 and 300. The guy that quoted 200, said it would be a little less with a different SFC but since they require a little more work 200.<hr></blockquote>Are the Kenny Brown DD any better? They look a LOT beefier than the BMR ones.
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                        • #13
                          How bad to you scrap just driving around in a lowered car?

                          mine is stock height and i scrap my nose all the F-ing time
                          2001 Blue Firebird.<br />V6 M5. free ram air mod, 3\" pvc intake, Air temp module, 3\" exhaust, Dynomax 3\"straight through exhaust, O2 sim with off road pipe.<p>Kenwood kdc-mp919 head unit, kfc-628 and kfc-748 amps, Kicker I650 mids/highs, 12\" kenwood WS-303 sub<br /><a href=\"http://www.trafficjamzcaraudio.com\" target=\"_blank\">www.trafficjamzcaraudio.com</a><p>1500 years ago the world was the center of the universe. 500 years ago the world was flat. 15 minutes ago we were alone on this planet. Just think what you will know tomorrow.

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                          • #14
                            I have rk sport tubular weld on's
                            I'm happy w/ mine
                            Race car - gone but not forgotten - 1997 firebird V6
                            nitrous et & mph: 12.168 & 110.95 mph, n/a 13.746 & 96.38 mph
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                            • #15
                              <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by TheV6Bird:
                              Are the Kenny Brown DD any better? They look a LOT beefier than the BMR ones.<hr></blockquote>

                              honestly from what I have heard any subframe connector is a great improvment, personally I like the kenny brown dd's because they also have a part that welds to the rear floorpan .. from what I have seen they are proably overkill but I like overkill and I want my car as stiff as humanly possible without having to resort to a cage..

                              I will be doing sfc's because I will be keeping my car for a long time so long as nobody sideswipes me and I don't want rattles.. plus Louisiana has like the 2nd or 3rd worst roads in the country and it really beats up my car, I think of these sfc's as just a little added insurance..

                              also if you want to get something that seems to look alot like KB DD's do a search on ebay for "subframe" someone is selling some made by www.hotparts.com, you might want to give them a try.. they seem to be copies of KB DD's I'm not sure about them so I'm willing to pay 50 or so more $$ for something I know of that has a better reputation..
                              -Brad
                              98 Firebird - gone from mod mode to keep it running and useable mode.
                              2000 V-Star Custom 1100
                              If all else fails use a bigger hammer!
                              :rock:

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