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  • #16
    Re: 315's on a V6???

    Originally posted by onspeed View Post
    tire sizing has no effect on contact patch.... just fyi
    So your saying a 165 would have the same amount of coverage as a 315?
    Let's flip a coin. Heads I get tail, Tails I get head.

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    • #17
      Re: 315's on a V6???

      Looks good, like I said 275's max, we don't have vipers.
      Let's flip a coin. Heads I get tail, Tails I get head.

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      • #18
        Re: 315's on a V6???

        Originally posted by youngsc View Post
        So your saying a 165 would have the same amount of coverage as a 315?
        :slap: <--onspeed

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        • #19
          Re: 315's on a V6???

          Originally posted by onspeed View Post
          tire sizing has no effect on contact patch.... just fyi
          the only way that can even begin to be true is if you're talking about tire diameter, not the width

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          • #20
            Re: 315's on a V6???

            i have 315s all the way around on my car front and rear... and its a v6 then again its a twin turbo vr4 too :P
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            • #21
              Re: 315's on a V6???

              Originally posted by youngsc View Post
              So your saying a 165 would have the same amount of coverage as a 315?
              Yes. physical contact patch is independent on tire width. Its weight of car divided by tire pressure. So, a 165 has the relatively the same contact patch as a 315, however a 315 would have more lateral contact.

              QED

              edit- to prevent a lot of flamming.

              tire pressure = weight / contact patch
              Last edited by onspeed; 07-02-2008, 06:12 PM.

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              • #22
                Re: 315's on a V6???

                Originally posted by SilverRS96 View Post
                haha what u dont like the steam rollers on the back of my car? i c how it is lol
                lmfao

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                • #23
                  Re: 315's on a V6???

                  Originally posted by onspeed View Post
                  Yes. physical contact patch is independent on tire width. Its weight of car divided by tire pressure. So, a 165 has the relatively the same contact patch as a 315, however a 315 would have more lateral contact.

                  QED

                  edit- to prevent a lot of flamming.

                  tire pressure = weight / contact patch
                  the contact patch has two dimensions. how wide the tire is, and how flat the tire is.
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                  • #24
                    Re: 315's on a V6???

                    Originally posted by onspeed View Post
                    tire pressure = weight / contact patch

                    Hmmm. Well since you SHOULD fill the tires according to the car mfgr's specs located on the inside of the door, one would think that with the same amount of pressure there SHOULD be more contact patch on a wider tire.

                    IE: using your formula, we can plug in some numbers:

                    27psi = 3500lbs / 129.62

                    Now if you put wider tires on there and the first two variables don't change. I would like to know how that is an accurate formula?

                    And even if this did hold true, why do we let air out of our tires at the track?

                    Not trying to flame, just don't understand the logic.

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                    • #25
                      Re: 315's on a V6???

                      for explanation, refer to the last page of the june 08 issue of car and driver ( franz kafka's garage). Or it could be july... i'll check later.

                      but if contact patch is weight/air pressure then....

                      3500/27=129.62

                      decreasing the pressure to... say 25psi

                      3500/25=140
                      Last edited by onspeed; 07-02-2008, 07:44 PM.

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                      • #26
                        Re: 315's on a V6???

                        Originally posted by onspeed View Post
                        for explanation, refer to the last page of the june 08 issue of car and driver ( franz kafka's garage). Or it could be july... i'll check later.

                        but if contact patch is weight/air pressure then....

                        3500/27=129.62

                        decreasing the pressure to... say 25psi

                        3500/25=140
                        Are you seriously still trying to argue that tire size doesn't dictate contact? Can't you just imagine it in your head? Whatever dude. Go put bike tires with low psi in them and see how much contact area you have. And why would Top fuel dragster and funny cars have wider tires too if that was true. Wouldn't they want less weight for better ETs? Quit confusing the noobs. Noob.

                        I understand what you're saying.. and you're right in the fact that lowering your psi you'll have a larger contact area. But that would be only the difference between two like sized tires. And saying that a wider tread has nothing to do with increasing contact area and it all solely relies on PSI then that is just retarded. :slap:

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                        • #27
                          Re: 315's on a V6???

                          ^no need to get all personal and start throwin around the "n" word...anyone with half a synapse in their heads knows that wider tires have more contact with the ground

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                          • #28
                            Re: 315's on a V6???

                            Originally posted by Smoke Panther View Post
                            ^no need to get all personal and start throwin around the "n" word...anyone with half a synapse in their heads knows that wider tires have more contact with the ground
                            Smoke, I was just trying to be like you. hah!

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                            • #29
                              Re: 315's on a V6???

                              ^with "trying" being the operative word?


                              to onspeed, if filled to the proper PSI, you're trying to tell me that this



                              ...has the same contact patch as either of these



                              ..?

                              I mean, just trying to make sure that we're on the same page and all :rolleyes:

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                              • #30
                                Re: 315's on a V6???

                                Lol yeah "trying" except I just skipped all the facts and went straight for the Duh part.

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