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Speaking of the jack points;
When I was out shopping for a used V8 f-body a few years ago, I kept coming across bent front fenders mostly on trans am's, but a few camaro's too.
The lower part of the front fenders looked bent out a bit, and the fenders didn't meet up with the doors perfectly.
As I looked more into it, I finally noticed that under the fender, I saw a huge indentation where a jack had been placed (mentioned by Redbird555 above). Seems that when people read their manuals and did what it said, it caused the body to slightly bend because of the car's weight.
My point is that the "factory stated" jack points will support the car, but will do other damage instead. Always use the subframe to jack up any car!
That's not the jack point that the Redbird555 is talking about, that's the bottom mounting point for the car. The car's real jack point, that you're supposed to use the stock scissor jack on, is underneith the car's runningboard
Yup what Smoke said...My panels dont meet up with the doors well which was the point I was trying to get across earlier but couldnt explain very well. I imagined that was the result of somebody jacking the car up there and not really knowing what they were doing.
Mine dont meet up well, i tried bending them back, it helped allot on the drivers side, but i was afraid to bend anymore. If you guys have a huge gap, go under there and see if you can adjust them a little. I adjusted both sides and it made a big difference.
Subframe connectors will make your car stiff, handle better and more fun to drive. I should have done the mod years ago. Rattles go away and turn in is sharper and more aggressive.
Do it...box style with welds. Bolt in, over time, will eventually tear into the mounts.
As for jack points. I found that people jack where the fender screws in. This little area is not for a jack, but looks like it meant for it. As you jack the fender mount collapse and throws your fender out of alignment. If I ever have to jack the car I jack on the sfcs, lower control arms, diff with a small piece of wood. Stay away from the body...all jack areas are weak and prone to bends. I hate bends.
So, the answer to the original question here is that subframe connectors for a daily driver (non track) justify their cost? Is this considered one of the best 1st suspension mods to do? Anyone with subframe connectors on a convertible? If yes, noticable improvement?
So, the answer to the original question here is that subframe connectors for a daily driver (non track) justify their cost? Is this considered one of the best 1st suspension mods to do? Anyone with subframe connectors on a convertible? If yes, noticable improvement?
Well EXCUUUUSSSE me! Butt spanking fetish aside whitdog, my question (and the forum question) STILL has not been answered to my satisfaction. Please re-read my question. I appreciate ANY answers that help tackle the matter at hand but talking about wanting this, that and how/when to afford it does not constitute a plausible answer. Are we not here to help one another and learn? So, anyone who actually has subframe connectors on a 'vert and cares about HELPING, care to comment? Christopherrr, any other suspension mods on your car or just the connectors?
Just buy them or don't. It's your choice. Considering the thread is three pages long and nothing but good things have been said about SFCs your question has essentially been answered, but if you're that hesitant to spend a couple hundred bucks on a mod then maybe you should probably just leave the car stock.
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