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    Is it beneficial at all to get a panhard rod on a non lowered car? The non adjustable bars look fairly cheap in price, and I hear about lowered cars needing them...but what about us guys at stock height?

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    Re: panhard on non lowered car

    Moving to suspension..
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    • #3
      Re: panhard on non lowered car

      what the heck?...didnt I put it in suspension?

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      • #4
        Re: panhard on non lowered car

        I like the adjustable parts better, I bought the the chromoly BMR LCA's and Panhardrod all adjustable back when my car was lowered. but even at stock height if you want to run a bigger rear tire having it adjustable is nice,esp. for 17 X 11" rims.LOL
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        • #5
          Re: panhard on non lowered car

          well personally I will probably not run bigger then a 16" tire on the car....probably wont go much wider then a 255 tire either...actually my new tires will probably 16" 255 tires if I can manage to squeeze them onto the rims...

          Is an aftermarket panhard bar stiffer or lighter?

          2002 SOM Z28 Camaro - 12.9 @ 104 mph
          1996 3800 Camaro - 13.43 @ 100.77 mph


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          • #6
            Re: panhard on non lowered car

            If you have 16 X 8 rims 255/50/16's will fit with no problems, I ran those on my stock salad shooters for years. They look bad@ss too. Chromly is like 3-5 lBS lighter I think , thats why I got my whole suspension with chromly and it is stiffer than the stock panhardrod, and looks better. I removed the upper peice that runs just above the panhardrod and didn't notice any difference except another 5-10lbs lighter. Also gave me more room for the 3" exhaust to go through. But I might be putting my exhaust before the axle for somemore weight savings. If all goes well my car should be in the 2800LB area with the turbo and me not in it.
            08' L76 6.0L 4X4 Chevy EXT.Cab LTZ Vortec MAX with Snug top cover, Dynomax exhaust,Hptuners& K&N intake
            96' Camaro M5 to A4 conversion, alot of mods . GT35R Turbo full suspension. Built engine

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            • #7
              Re: panhard on non lowered car

              thats sweet...what piece above the panhard...whats it for?

              the rims arent the salad shooters though...they are the chrome 5 spoke's...I think they were a tad skinnier then the salad shooters... I know my salad shooters would hold 255's

              steve do me a favor to and pm me with how you got the car down to that weight...while still keeping the thing streetable with the seats in and bumper supports obviously still intact...I've run out of ideas of what to take out...

              2002 SOM Z28 Camaro - 12.9 @ 104 mph
              1996 3800 Camaro - 13.43 @ 100.77 mph


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                My front bumper support is gone for the intercooler, I haven't wieghed it but another guy on fullthrottle weighed his with what he has done and whet he weighs and it was like 29?0 something. My car domain has my parts, like Tub. K , Tub. lower/upper A arms, 14LB batt. up front and soon a 1Qt. alm resivor, lighter seats Spearco, rear seat delete, no spare tire or jack, Tunnel mount TQ arm, fiberglass hood/spoiler, no windsheild res., lighter carpet, chromly LCA's/Panhardrod, subframe connectos, no EGR/EVAP, plastic molding up front, heat sheilds , QA-1 front shocks/springs, front Prostars(30LBS) for the track, MT drag radials 275/40/17's on 17X9 rims for the track, misc. metal cut out(LOL),and upper panhardrod removed I think thats about it , might be more, but I'm adding a 3 core 2" thick radiator that weighs 19lbs empty and don't know how much full. The turbo parts and 1.5 gallon metanol injection trunk mount setup. I have my Optima in a battery box in the rear too. I can remove my stereo and rear battery for the track. I think I would remove the front ST 35mm sway bar too, that 34LBS for the track also.
                08' L76 6.0L 4X4 Chevy EXT.Cab LTZ Vortec MAX with Snug top cover, Dynomax exhaust,Hptuners& K&N intake
                96' Camaro M5 to A4 conversion, alot of mods . GT35R Turbo full suspension. Built engine

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                • #9
                  Re: panhard on non lowered car

                  Originally posted by LETZRIDE View Post
                  what the heck?...didnt I put it in suspension?
                  Lol, no you put it appearance..

                  Yeah, the main help with a pan hard bar is from the bushings. It helps with latitudinal wheel hop and overall stability of the rear axle. Yeah, tubular is normally lighter and stronger, but the most benefit is from the bushings.
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                  • #10
                    Re: panhard on non lowered car

                    Originally posted by TheGr8Schlotzky View Post
                    Lol, no you put it appearance..

                    Yeah, the main help with a pan hard bar is from the bushings. It helps with latitudinal wheel hop and overall stability of the rear axle. Yeah, tubular is normally lighter and stronger, but the most benefit is from the bushings.
                    I musta been half asleep... so would I be better off buying bushings and swapping them out? or just get a panhard bar with poly bushings?

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                    • #11
                      Re: panhard on non lowered car

                      Talk to john (tpunk) on fullthrottle. He's pretty much an authority on all things suspension. (No offense to any guys here)

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                      • #12
                        Re: panhard on non lowered car

                        Originally posted by LETZRIDE View Post
                        I musta been half asleep... so would I be better off buying bushings and swapping them out? or just get a panhard bar with poly bushings?
                        I've been running poly bushings just about everywhere on my car for 8 years and including K member and upper/lower A arms, Trans mount, LCAS, Panhardrod, Sway bars, UMI TQ arm and there fine. Suspension is tight and rides great. I just grease them about every 6 months.
                        Last edited by ssms5411; 04-10-2009, 04:34 AM.
                        08' L76 6.0L 4X4 Chevy EXT.Cab LTZ Vortec MAX with Snug top cover, Dynomax exhaust,Hptuners& K&N intake
                        96' Camaro M5 to A4 conversion, alot of mods . GT35R Turbo full suspension. Built engine

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                        • #13
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                          Same here. Car runs, drives and feels like brand new. I kind of figured, while I was doing it, that it would feel like a go cart, but much to my surprise, she's real smooth and comfortable. Just gotta lube every 6 months or so. Well worth the investment.

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                          • #14
                            Re: panhard on non lowered car

                            Originally posted by Inferno View Post
                            Talk to john (tpunk) on fullthrottle. He's pretty much an authority on all things suspension. (No offense to any guys here)
                            Theres more than few guys here that can answer questions on suspension.
                            08' L76 6.0L 4X4 Chevy EXT.Cab LTZ Vortec MAX with Snug top cover, Dynomax exhaust,Hptuners& K&N intake
                            96' Camaro M5 to A4 conversion, alot of mods . GT35R Turbo full suspension. Built engine

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                            • #15
                              Re: panhard on non lowered car

                              is there any difference between a ws6 phb and a v6 one?

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