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I was told getting the "true" stall out of a converter is by using a transbrake. What is it? I've heard yay and nay on this. What are the pros and cons and who has it on their ride? 
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<b>99 Camaro Z28 A4</b><br />R.I.P. 00 Firebird 3.8<br />14.89 @ 90, 2.03 60\' -
No V6 has this on there ride it is like true hard core stuff it is kind of like neutral drops you hold a button down and rev to say 4400 and when the light goes green let go of the button and bam you are off<b><a href=\"http://www.sick-sixx.com\" target=\"_blank\">SICK-SIXX MEMBER</a></b><br />NA 14.345 with a 1.863 60 foot<br />Nitrous 13.03@99.5 with a 1.63 60 foot<br /><br />2000 Camaro 3.8L A4: USE TO HAVE Comp Cam 210/220 .535/.547 113lsa 111 I/C, Port and Polished Heads, NX Wet Kit 100 Shot, CPRA made by CP, RK Sport Headers -
Actually, Gaston from www.v6power.net runs one.
His n/a runs are dead even with Keith.Race car - gone but not forgotten - 1997 firebird V6
nitrous et & mph: 12.168 & 110.95 mph, n/a 13.746 & 96.38 mph
2013 Dodge Challenger SRT8: 12.125, 116.45
2010 Ford Taurus SHO: no times yetComment
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So, must of guys here that have high stall converters don't have true stalls correct? I emailed Edge and this was their response:
"The stall math we advertise for our performance converters is based on
"true stall" and is best measured in the field using a transbrake. The foot
brake in your late model car will get you very close to true stall but fall
short by 300-500rpm.
What would I recommend? I recommend a tire that delivers good to great
traction, and STR between 2.37 - 2.51 depending on how violent you want the
launch. Stall math in the 3.8 is varied because the torque curve is fairly
constant between 3300-4500. If the 1/4 mile is the main goal and you still
want the street manners then 32-3400 rpm of "true stall" is the compromise."<b>99 Camaro Z28 A4</b><br />R.I.P. 00 Firebird 3.8<br />14.89 @ 90, 2.03 60\'Comment
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The transbrake engages first gear and reverse at the same time, effectively keeping your car from moving at all. Let off the button and it disengages reverse and you're off. I think "true stall" with the brake is slightly higher than foot braking because the converter overcomes the brakes, spinning your tires before it actually gets to the top stall amount it can (other factors too I'm sure - TONS of things to consider - car weight, torque, yadda,yadda). The transbrake lets the converter come up as high as it can since the tranny is locked and won't move.
They are definately fun - have one on our 69, but it is strictly a drag car. I think that would be towards the end of my list for a "real" street car (not a race car with license plates). Can't imagine it would be good to accidentally hit that button as you were tooling down the interstate...
Oh yea - tranny cooler is a must - they make alot of heat.
RonI know - Camaro 67-02.. 2000 Camaro V6/A4 Black T-Tops<br />1969 Camaro 350/PG 12.69 @ 102.5 1966 Chevy II Wagon 283/PG Destined for NHRA stock eliminator.Comment
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<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by shortdog273:
[QBand STR between 2.37 - 2.51 [/QB]<hr></blockquote>
Get one with a higher number.
Mine is 2.8
Low 1.9 60's with 3:23's aren't that bad.Race car - gone but not forgotten - 1997 firebird V6
nitrous et & mph: 12.168 & 110.95 mph, n/a 13.746 & 96.38 mph
2013 Dodge Challenger SRT8: 12.125, 116.45
2010 Ford Taurus SHO: no times yetComment
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<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by 12secondv6:
Get one with a higher number.
Mine is 2.8
Low 1.9 60's with 3:23's aren't that bad.<hr></blockquote>
Yea, but I'm gonna be mainly on street tires unless some nittos pop up. That's STR he recommended for my application. What do you think?<b>99 Camaro Z28 A4</b><br />R.I.P. 00 Firebird 3.8<br />14.89 @ 90, 2.03 60\'Comment
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Im a 2.45 str 1.85 NA and 1.6 Nitrous and i daily drive mine everyday
[ March 06, 2003: Message edited by: slacker69 ]</p><b><a href=\"http://www.sick-sixx.com\" target=\"_blank\">SICK-SIXX MEMBER</a></b><br />NA 14.345 with a 1.863 60 foot<br />Nitrous 13.03@99.5 with a 1.63 60 foot<br /><br />2000 Camaro 3.8L A4: USE TO HAVE Comp Cam 210/220 .535/.547 113lsa 111 I/C, Port and Polished Heads, NX Wet Kit 100 Shot, CPRA made by CP, RK Sport HeadersComment
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<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by slacker69:
Im a 2.45 str 1.85 NA and 1.6 Nitrous and i daily drive mine everyday
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What kinna tires did you use when you ran those times?<b>99 Camaro Z28 A4</b><br />R.I.P. 00 Firebird 3.8<br />14.89 @ 90, 2.03 60\'Comment
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NA i use nittos 245/50/16 and for nitrous i use Et streets 26-11.5/16<b><a href=\"http://www.sick-sixx.com\" target=\"_blank\">SICK-SIXX MEMBER</a></b><br />NA 14.345 with a 1.863 60 foot<br />Nitrous 13.03@99.5 with a 1.63 60 foot<br /><br />2000 Camaro 3.8L A4: USE TO HAVE Comp Cam 210/220 .535/.547 113lsa 111 I/C, Port and Polished Heads, NX Wet Kit 100 Shot, CPRA made by CP, RK Sport HeadersComment
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Slacker, I noticed it had drag tires for your times in the timeslip page. Nittos are considered a streetlegal drag tire correct? I'm looking into getting some in the future.<b>99 Camaro Z28 A4</b><br />R.I.P. 00 Firebird 3.8<br />14.89 @ 90, 2.03 60\'Comment
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Yes they are street legal.<b><a href=\"http://www.sick-sixx.com\" target=\"_blank\">SICK-SIXX MEMBER</a></b><br />NA 14.345 with a 1.863 60 foot<br />Nitrous 13.03@99.5 with a 1.63 60 foot<br /><br />2000 Camaro 3.8L A4: USE TO HAVE Comp Cam 210/220 .535/.547 113lsa 111 I/C, Port and Polished Heads, NX Wet Kit 100 Shot, CPRA made by CP, RK Sport HeadersComment
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