Monte SS, GXP, Impala SS

[V8 Killer]

Originally posted by camaro_speedemon:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by V8 Killer:
dude we cant argue this.. we dont and wont see eye to eye. Lets stop before this turns in to a flameing war thread..

My point is, GM could bring back all their old 'muscle cars' exactly as they were in their day, and people would still ***** about it. </font>[/QUOTE]nope...

[speedracer95v6]

I just bought a focus. GM lost my business when they killed the fbodies and overpriced the cobalt SS supercharged.

[JusFlyinBy]

Originally posted by camaro_speedemon:
Nothin GM does will please you guys.

Basically your entire post is what I was trying to say. I couldn't agree with you anymore and glad to see someone else here actually feels that way.

[ September 26, 2005, 07:31 PM: Message edited by: JusFlyinBy ]

[JusFlyinBy]

Originally posted by V8 Killer:
The new Monte Carlos and Impala are nothing compared to the 81-88 Monte SS's and the 94-96 Impala's.

You know the new ones out perform those gas guzzling heavy piece of craps the old ones were right?

Originally posted by V8 Killer:
The new GTO is nothing compared to the OLD GTO. Their half assing everything. GTO, gigantic V8, Bleak looking car.

As opposed to the old GTO, that was a gigantic V8 bleak looking car? That was a spitting image of a Grand Prix in its time, and just about every other Pontiac out there? Also very similar to other sedans? Test drive a GTO. The new GTO carries the old name to the tee (or however you say that), except its more refined and better made.

Originally posted by V8 Killer:
Monte and Impala, now has V8, FWD V8 that is :rolleyes: .... Cobalt and Ion Redline, did we ever even ask for tuner competitors? [img]tongue.gif[/img]
I have no complaints about the Solstice and Sky. Why can Ford please Mustang lovers but GM cant please us?

So base the entire population of car buyers off a v6 F-body board?


You all hear SS and expect larger than life.


This isn't a flame war, just countering your thoughts.

[BLLDOGG]

i have driven the impala SS and its a fun car

[camaro_speedemon]

Originally posted by speedracer95v6:
I just bought a focus. GM lost my business when they killed the fbodies and overpriced the cobalt SS supercharged.

Overpriced?? The car was going for like 20500 with the GM employee discount. [img]graemlins/stickpoke.gif[/img] Not bad for a mid 14 second car.

GM lost my busines when I bought my Matrix, not out of spite because they killed the fbody, but because the cavy was a POS.

If they would have had the Cobalt, I would have deffinately gone with that.

[Mogobs30th]

You people that want a RWD car kill me. MOST have not ever had to drive in snow. 300hp is 300hp, whether or not it is FWD or RWD doesn't matter. I really like those new DOD engines on the new cars, and the styling on the 2006 Monte Carlo.

[95fbirdkid]

The current 3800 N/A Monte's will beat their 1980's V8 counterparts stock for stock. The supercharged SS wouldn't even be a race.

The supercharged Impala is only a hair slower than the mid 90's LT1 Impalas

The new GTO utterly decimates it's 60's counterpart in handling and in the 1/4. I mean ****, my slow *** 4 banger would give a stock old GTO a good run for it's money. And in my personal opinion, the old GTOs are *** ugly.

Besides, what about the sigma or whatever platform that wasn't cancelled, is going to be a RWD platform. GMs current line is 100x better then 5 years ago. 5 Years ago, the only performance car's GM offered were the Fbodies, GTPs and the Vettes.

Atleast now we have a 400 HP GTO, 300 HP Monte Carlo, 260 HP GPGTP, 200 HP Soltice, Sky and Cobalt SS.

[shenanigans]

Originally posted by Mogobs30th:
You people that want a RWD car kill me. MOST have not ever had to drive in snow. 300hp is 300hp, whether or not it is FWD or RWD doesn't matter. I really like those new DOD engines on the new cars, and the styling on the 2006 Monte Carlo.

I have driven in the snow... and I am sure a FWD car woudl be better... but guess what I never see snow, honestly only seen snow 4 times in my life. Thats right I am 23 years old and only seen snow 4 times in my life. I am sure there are tons of people in FL, TX, and California, 3 of the largest populated states in the US agree... and of course all the states in between.

Not saying everything has to be RWD manual tranny but, unless I have $35,000 for a new car, I can't have anything with rwd and a manual tranny.

If they made the gtp, monte carlo and such rwd, and autos I would look at them more, but still want a manual tranny.


I am not *****ing that GM doesn't make it, if they don't want to make it fine, I'll go buy a mustang. But don't sell me on a car I don't ****ing want.

[Loochy88]

Originally posted by Mogobs30th:
You people that want a RWD car kill me. MOST have not ever had to drive in snow.

eh, ive driven in the snow before, it wasnt THAT bad, but it wasnt fun. i dont drive the camaro in the winter. RWD is fun, FWD is practical, but it puts me to sleep.

[V8 Killer]

I drive my Firebird every New York winter, terrible in snow..

[mr_man]

I'm not sure where everyone is getting that they are $35k, the GXP's are selling in the upper 20's. As far as speed is concerned, one has run 13.9@102 and another has run a 14.0@97-98 in 90 degree air. The WORST track time from a GXP is 14.4@97. GXP's are more performance orientated the the Monte and Impala, and is most likely a little quicker. Some differences are lightweight forged rims, 255's in the front, and better brakes/suspension.

[shenanigans]

Originally posted by mr_man:
I'm not sure where everyone is getting that they are $35k, the GXP's are selling in the upper 20's. As far as speed is concerned, one has run 13.9@102 and another has run a 14.0@97-98 in 90 degree air. The WORST track time from a GXP is 14.4@97. GXP's are more performance orientated the the Monte and Impala, and is most likely a little quicker. Some differences are lightweight forged rims, 255's in the front, and better brakes/suspension.

I never said tehy cost $35k.

I am saying the GTO costs $35k... If I want something that is RWD and sport its looking to cost me $35k.

I know the sky is coming out but its not my cup of tea, I don't want a 2 seater convertable roadster.

[JusFlyinBy]

Originally posted by shenanigans:
I never said tehy cost $35k.

I am saying the GTO costs $35k... If I want something that is RWD and sport its looking to cost me $35k.

The GTO costs 33 g's.

I paid 30 with the GM discount. Sooo there [img]tongue.gif[/img] :D

Oh, and for comparison. If you want something else thats RWD and "sporty", there is the $38K 350Z, or the $38K G35, or the $33K RX-8. The GT's around here were selling for $35K and the Vert's were selling for $40K!!! :eek:

Sooo, why aren't people pissed off at these companies?

[shenanigans]

Originally posted by JusFlyinBy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by shenanigans:
I never said tehy cost $35k.

I am saying the GTO costs $35k... If I want something that is RWD and sport its looking to cost me $35k.

The GTO costs 33 g's.

I paid 30 with the GM discount. Sooo there [img]tongue.gif[/img] :D

Oh, and for comparison. If you want something else thats RWD and "sporty", there is the $38K 350Z, or the $38K G35, or the $33K RX-8. The GT's around here were selling for $35K and the Vert's were selling for $40K!!! :eek:

Sooo, why aren't people pissed off at these companies? </font>[/QUOTE]I could give a rats *** about other companies.. only reason why fords are selling so high is because they cannot build enough of them so it inflates the price.

Reason why they are selling so high is their is nothing in the class to compete with.

Reason why your GTOs are selling less then $35k, is because they were selling like ***, and they needed to move inventory, same reason why they did the "employee pricing" then extended it over and over.